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>
> Gigabyte calls the CPU clock setting 'CPU Host Frequency'. This number is
> 1/4 of the FrontSide Bus frequency. If you wish to overclock your E4300 to
> 2.7 GHz, set the 'CPU Host Frequency' to 300 MHz rather than the stock 200
> MHz. Gigabyte calls the CPU clock multiplier 'Clock Ratio'. Leave the
> multiplier ('Clock Ratio') at 9 X (you can LOWER the multiplier, but you can
> not raise it above the stock 9 X.) The E4300 must be overclocked by raising
> the 'Host Frequency' (CPU clock) because you can not raise the multiplier
> ('Clock Ratio').
>
> You may need to raise the CPU core voltage by a SMALL amount to overclock.
> Do NOT raise the CPU core voltage above 1.4 VDC. Make any changes in small
> increments, test for stability after each change.
>
> Phil Weldon
>
> Ok thanks for helping me but you must know that I tried everything
you said :/ and its not working as should be... I really dont know whats
wrong, I always change Cpu Host Freqency to 300, tried change cpu
voltage, tried chande memory multipier, and always when I push F10 and
save new settins than my monitor stay dark for a 5-10 sec and computer
starts with no overclocking :/ sorry for my english, martin.
>
>
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'afi777' wrote:
| Ok thanks for helping me but you must know that I tried everything
| you said :/ and its not working as should be... I really dont know whats
| wrong, I always change Cpu Host Freqency to 300, tried change cpu
| voltage, tried chande memory multipier, and always when I push F10 and
| save new settins than my monitor stay dark for a 5-10 sec and computer
| starts with no overclocking :/ sorry for my english, martin.
_____

All I can suggest is that some setting in the BIOS may be set to [AUTO] that
should be set to [MANUAL] (or similar settings) to get the overclock
settings to 'take'. You might also use a program like SiSoft Sandra Lite
(free) to check the real CPU speed. Some programs (CPU-Z for one) do not
give the correct CPU speed, FSB speed, and multiplier with my E4300 and EVGA
680i motherboard. (SiSoft Sandra also reports some incorrect numbers; CPU
core voltage, for one.

The E4300 overclocks I get with the Intel supplied boxed retail heatsink/fan
are
CPU speed: 2.7 GHz
FSB speed: 1200 MHz
CPU multiplier: 9X
CPU core voltage: 1.250 v (default is 1.325 v)
and
CPU speed: 3.15 GHz
FSB speed: 1400 MHz
CPU multiplier: 9X
CPU core voltage: 1.450 v.

The 2.7 GHz overclock is stable while running Orthos v0.41.110.18.
The 3.15 GHz overclock is stable while running light CPU loads, but hangs
very quickly running Orthos. I also don't like the very high CPU voltage.
Perhaps with better cooling I will get a higher overclock at a more
reasonable CPU core voltage.

As for English: I read the manual (in English) for your motherboard and it
is difficult for me to understand. It seems almost as if the manual was
translated back and forth among several languages. And some information is
just missing.

Phil Weldon

"afi777" <afi777 RemoveThis @gazeta.pl> wrote in message
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|
| >
| > Gigabyte calls the CPU clock setting 'CPU Host Frequency'. This number
is
| > 1/4 of the FrontSide Bus frequency. If you wish to overclock your E4300
to
| > 2.7 GHz, set the 'CPU Host Frequency' to 300 MHz rather than the stock
200
| > MHz. Gigabyte calls the CPU clock multiplier 'Clock Ratio'. Leave the
| > multiplier ('Clock Ratio') at 9 X (you can LOWER the multiplier, but you
can
| > not raise it above the stock 9 X.) The E4300 must be overclocked by
raising
| > the 'Host Frequency' (CPU clock) because you can not raise the
multiplier
| > ('Clock Ratio').
| >
| > You may need to raise the CPU core voltage by a SMALL amount to
overclock.
| > Do NOT raise the CPU core voltage above 1.4 VDC. Make any changes in
small
| > increments, test for stability after each change.
| >
| > Phil Weldon
| >
| > Ok thanks for helping me but you must know that I tried everything
| you said :/ and its not working as should be... I really dont know whats
| wrong, I always change Cpu Host Freqency to 300, tried change cpu
| voltage, tried chande memory multipier, and always when I push F10 and
| save new settins than my monitor stay dark for a 5-10 sec and computer
| starts with no overclocking :/ sorry for my english, martin.
| >
| >
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'afi777' wrote:
| Ok thanks for helping me but you must know that I tried everything
| you said :/ and its not working as should be... I really dont know whats
| wrong, I always change Cpu Host Freqency to 300, tried change cpu
| voltage, tried chande memory multipier, and always when I push F10 and
| save new settins than my monitor stay dark for a 5-10 sec and computer
| starts with no overclocking :/ sorry for my english, martin.
_____

You might find this web page useful. The article itself isn't very good,
but the Gigabyte 965P-DS3P BIOS settings may help you. (I would try a lower
FSB setting and a stock CPU core voltage to start.) The article claims
outrageous overclocked CPU speeds, but offers no clue as to how the
overclock were actually obtained (certainly not without extra cooling.)

Phil Weldon

"afi777" <afi777 RemoveThis @gazeta.pl> wrote in message
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|
| >
| > Gigabyte calls the CPU clock setting 'CPU Host Frequency'. This number
is
| > 1/4 of the FrontSide Bus frequency. If you wish to overclock your E4300
to
| > 2.7 GHz, set the 'CPU Host Frequency' to 300 MHz rather than the stock
200
| > MHz. Gigabyte calls the CPU clock multiplier 'Clock Ratio'. Leave the
| > multiplier ('Clock Ratio') at 9 X (you can LOWER the multiplier, but you
can
| > not raise it above the stock 9 X.) The E4300 must be overclocked by
raising
| > the 'Host Frequency' (CPU clock) because you can not raise the
multiplier
| > ('Clock Ratio').
| >
| > You may need to raise the CPU core voltage by a SMALL amount to
overclock.
| > Do NOT raise the CPU core voltage above 1.4 VDC. Make any changes in
small
| > increments, test for stability after each change.
| >
| > Phil Weldon
| >
| > Ok thanks for helping me but you must know that I tried everything
| you said :/ and its not working as should be... I really dont know whats
| wrong, I always change Cpu Host Freqency to 300, tried change cpu
| voltage, tried chande memory multipier, and always when I push F10 and
| save new settins than my monitor stay dark for a 5-10 sec and computer
| starts with no overclocking :/ sorry for my english, martin.
| >
| >
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Phil,
Don't forget that the C2D, unless specifically told not to, lowers both the
CPU multiplier and the core voltage when idle.
This is called the Speedstep (or Stepspeed, I don't remember) property of
the CPU that enables lowering the dissipated power according to the CPU
load.
Example with my rig (P5W DH, E6600):
Clock = 333MHz (overclocked from 266MHz)
FSB = 1333MHz

When idle:
Vcore = 1.136V
CPU freq = 2000MHz
Multiplier = 6

When fully loaded (Nero Vision encoding a video DVD, CPU load = 99.5%):
Vcore = 1.224V
CPU freq = 3000MHz
Multiplier = 9


"Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed RemoveThis @example.com> wrote in message
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> 'afi777' wrote:
> | Ok thanks for helping me but you must know that I tried everything
> | you said :/ and its not working as should be... I really dont know whats
> | wrong, I always change Cpu Host Freqency to 300, tried change cpu
> | voltage, tried chande memory multipier, and always when I push F10 and
> | save new settins than my monitor stay dark for a 5-10 sec and computer
> | starts with no overclocking :/ sorry for my english, martin.
> _____
>
> All I can suggest is that some setting in the BIOS may be set to [AUTO]
> that
> should be set to [MANUAL] (or similar settings) to get the overclock
> settings to 'take'. You might also use a program like SiSoft Sandra Lite
> (free) to check the real CPU speed. Some programs (CPU-Z for one) do not
> give the correct CPU speed, FSB speed, and multiplier with my E4300 and
> EVGA
> 680i motherboard. (SiSoft Sandra also reports some incorrect numbers; CPU
> core voltage, for one.
>
> The E4300 overclocks I get with the Intel supplied boxed retail
> heatsink/fan
> are
> CPU speed: 2.7 GHz
> FSB speed: 1200 MHz
> CPU multiplier: 9X
> CPU core voltage: 1.250 v (default is 1.325 v)
> and
> CPU speed: 3.15 GHz
> FSB speed: 1400 MHz
> CPU multiplier: 9X
> CPU core voltage: 1.450 v.
>
> The 2.7 GHz overclock is stable while running Orthos v0.41.110.18.
> The 3.15 GHz overclock is stable while running light CPU loads, but hangs
> very quickly running Orthos. I also don't like the very high CPU voltage.
> Perhaps with better cooling I will get a higher overclock at a more
> reasonable CPU core voltage.
>
> As for English: I read the manual (in English) for your motherboard and
> it
> is difficult for me to understand. It seems almost as if the manual was
> translated back and forth among several languages. And some information
> is
> just missing.
>
> Phil Weldon
>
> "afi777" <afi777 RemoveThis @gazeta.pl> wrote in message
> news:f17gnf$lb5$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
> |
> | >
> | > Gigabyte calls the CPU clock setting 'CPU Host Frequency'. This
> number
> is
> | > 1/4 of the FrontSide Bus frequency. If you wish to overclock your
> E4300
> to
> | > 2.7 GHz, set the 'CPU Host Frequency' to 300 MHz rather than the stock
> 200
> | > MHz. Gigabyte calls the CPU clock multiplier 'Clock Ratio'. Leave
> the
> | > multiplier ('Clock Ratio') at 9 X (you can LOWER the multiplier, but
> you
> can
> | > not raise it above the stock 9 X.) The E4300 must be overclocked by
> raising
> | > the 'Host Frequency' (CPU clock) because you can not raise the
> multiplier
> | > ('Clock Ratio').
> | >
> | > You may need to raise the CPU core voltage by a SMALL amount to
> overclock.
> | > Do NOT raise the CPU core voltage above 1.4 VDC. Make any changes in
> small
> | > increments, test for stability after each change.
> | >
> | > Phil Weldon
> | >
> | > Ok thanks for helping me but you must know that I tried everything
> | you said :/ and its not working as should be... I really dont know whats
> | wrong, I always change Cpu Host Freqency to 300, tried change cpu
> | voltage, tried chande memory multipier, and always when I push F10 and
> | save new settins than my monitor stay dark for a 5-10 sec and computer
> | starts with no overclocking :/ sorry for my english, martin.
> | >
> | >
>
>
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'Michel R. Carleer' wrote, in part:
| Don't forget that the C2D, unless specifically told not to, lowers both
the
| CPU multiplier and the core voltage when idle.
| This is called the Speedstep (or Stepspeed, I don't remember) property of
| the CPU that enables lowering the dissipated power according to the CPU
| load.
_____

I have all that stuff turned off while attempting to get a good overclock.
The incorrect reports are really incorrect.

Phil Weldon

"Michel R. Carleer" <mcar.RemoveThis@ynet.be> wrote in message
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| Phil,
| Don't forget that the C2D, unless specifically told not to, lowers both
the
| CPU multiplier and the core voltage when idle.
| This is called the Speedstep (or Stepspeed, I don't remember) property of
| the CPU that enables lowering the dissipated power according to the CPU
| load.
| Example with my rig (P5W DH, E6600):
| Clock = 333MHz (overclocked from 266MHz)
| FSB = 1333MHz
|
| When idle:
| Vcore = 1.136V
| CPU freq = 2000MHz
| Multiplier = 6
|
| When fully loaded (Nero Vision encoding a video DVD, CPU load = 99.5%):
| Vcore = 1.224V
| CPU freq = 3000MHz
| Multiplier = 9
|
|
| "Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed.RemoveThis@example.com> wrote in message
| news:xvPZh.2725$296.1589@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
| > 'afi777' wrote:
| > | Ok thanks for helping me but you must know that I tried everything
| > | you said :/ and its not working as should be... I really dont know
whats
| > | wrong, I always change Cpu Host Freqency to 300, tried change cpu
| > | voltage, tried chande memory multipier, and always when I push F10 and
| > | save new settins than my monitor stay dark for a 5-10 sec and computer
| > | starts with no overclocking :/ sorry for my english, martin.
| > _____
| >
| > All I can suggest is that some setting in the BIOS may be set to [AUTO]
| > that
| > should be set to [MANUAL] (or similar settings) to get the overclock
| > settings to 'take'. You might also use a program like SiSoft Sandra
Lite
| > (free) to check the real CPU speed. Some programs (CPU-Z for one) do
not
| > give the correct CPU speed, FSB speed, and multiplier with my E4300 and
| > EVGA
| > 680i motherboard. (SiSoft Sandra also reports some incorrect numbers;
CPU
| > core voltage, for one.
| >
| > The E4300 overclocks I get with the Intel supplied boxed retail
| > heatsink/fan
| > are
| > CPU speed: 2.7 GHz
| > FSB speed: 1200 MHz
| > CPU multiplier: 9X
| > CPU core voltage: 1.250 v (default is 1.325 v)
| > and
| > CPU speed: 3.15 GHz
| > FSB speed: 1400 MHz
| > CPU multiplier: 9X
| > CPU core voltage: 1.450 v.
| >
| > The 2.7 GHz overclock is stable while running Orthos v0.41.110.18.
| > The 3.15 GHz overclock is stable while running light CPU loads, but
hangs
| > very quickly running Orthos. I also don't like the very high CPU
voltage.
| > Perhaps with better cooling I will get a higher overclock at a more
| > reasonable CPU core voltage.
| >
| > As for English: I read the manual (in English) for your motherboard
and
| > it
| > is difficult for me to understand. It seems almost as if the manual was
| > translated back and forth among several languages. And some information
| > is
| > just missing.
| >
| > Phil Weldon
| >
| > "afi777" <afi777.RemoveThis@gazeta.pl> wrote in message
| > news:f17gnf$lb5$1@inews.gazeta.pl...
| > |
| > | >
| > | > Gigabyte calls the CPU clock setting 'CPU Host Frequency'. This
| > number
| > is
| > | > 1/4 of the FrontSide Bus frequency. If you wish to overclock your
| > E4300
| > to
| > | > 2.7 GHz, set the 'CPU Host Frequency' to 300 MHz rather than the
stock
| > 200
| > | > MHz. Gigabyte calls the CPU clock multiplier 'Clock Ratio'. Leave
| > the
| > | > multiplier ('Clock Ratio') at 9 X (you can LOWER the multiplier, but
| > you
| > can
| > | > not raise it above the stock 9 X.) The E4300 must be overclocked by
| > raising
| > | > the 'Host Frequency' (CPU clock) because you can not raise the
| > multiplier
| > | > ('Clock Ratio').
| > | >
| > | > You may need to raise the CPU core voltage by a SMALL amount to
| > overclock.
| > | > Do NOT raise the CPU core voltage above 1.4 VDC. Make any changes
in
| > small
| > | > increments, test for stability after each change.
| > | >
| > | > Phil Weldon
| > | >
| > | > Ok thanks for helping me but you must know that I tried everything
| > | you said :/ and its not working as should be... I really dont know
whats
| > | wrong, I always change Cpu Host Freqency to 300, tried change cpu
| > | voltage, tried chande memory multipier, and always when I push F10 and
| > | save new settins than my monitor stay dark for a 5-10 sec and computer
| > | starts with no overclocking :/ sorry for my english, martin.
| > | >
| > | >
| >
| >
|
|
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"Phil Weldon" <not.disclosed.TakeThisOut@example.com> wrote in message
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> I have all that stuff turned off while attempting to get a good overclock.
> The incorrect reports are really incorrect.
>
> Phil Weldon
>
I was pretty sure you would know about it. Nevertheless I wanted to make the
comment because others might not know about the feature.
Well for me, all that stuff is turned on. But then a 25% overclock (2.4 ->
3.0 GHz for me) is not what I would call a very aggressive overclocking for
a C2D.
Very strange however that CPU-Z is so wrong by you, and completely on track
by me. Chipset not read properly?
I also have problems with Sisoft. Very strange values for the different
voltages (+5V reported as +3.15V for example. Which is totally impossible,
the PC would not even boot).

Michka
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I have this motherboard. When you try to overclock the processor, the
memory timing automatically tries to change from the default (2.0X to 2.5X)
I overclocked to 3.3ghz but force the memory multiplier to 2.0X I bet that
is the problem, my motheboard will lock up if memory multiplier not 2.0X
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afi777,
See this web page.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01/18/overclocking-guide-part-1/
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afi777,
I have the same problem that you described (CPU returning back to
1.8ghz). It doesn't happen 100% of the time, but more than half of the time
?? I am convinced that it is a problem with the motherboard BIOS. I never
turn my computer off so I don't have to change the BIOS Memory multiplier
back to 2.0X too often. Did you look at the web page (Tom's Hardware) that
I posted on a previous message?? It has some good recommendations for
voltages that might help you get higher speeds. I have a Scythe CPU cooler
and big Antec case so I can push the processor over 3 ghz without much
trouble. I bought premium OCZ memory but it isn't overclocking too well.
The BIOS doesn't allow playing with timing (that I could find). Regards
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Heywood Jablowme napisa³(a):
> afi777,
> I have the same problem that you described (CPU returning back to
> 1.8ghz). It doesn't happen 100% of the time, but more than half of the time
> ?? I am convinced that it is a problem with the motherboard BIOS. I never
> turn my computer off so I don't have to change the BIOS Memory multiplier
> back to 2.0X too often. Did you look at the web page (Tom's Hardware) that
> I posted on a previous message?? It has some good recommendations for
> voltages that might help you get higher speeds. I have a Scythe CPU cooler
> and big Antec case so I can push the processor over 3 ghz without much
> trouble. I bought premium OCZ memory but it isn't overclocking too well.
> The BIOS doesn't allow playing with timing (that I could find). Regards
>
>
I discovered that when I change memory multipier to 1.5 , computer
normally restarting with 2.6ghz settigns. but tell me how much its lower
my memory (also system) performance ?
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Heywood Jablowme napisa³(a):
> I have this motherboard. When you try to overclock the processor, the
> memory timing automatically tries to change from the default (2.0X to 2.5X)
> I overclocked to 3.3ghz but force the memory multiplier to 2.0X I bet that
> is the problem, my motheboard will lock up if memory multiplier not 2.0X
>
>
thank for help , its really working a set CPU Host frequency to 325
and memory multipier to 2,0- and overclock to 2.6ghz! but....there is
big problem :/ every time when I try close windows and start computer
again my monitor dont start and everything is black :/ I must shut off
the power and after again starting computer back to 1.8ghz :/ any idea
where is the problem ?
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'afi777' wrote:
| I discovered that when I change memory multipier to 1.5 , computer
| normally restarting with 2.6ghz settigns. but tell me how much its lower
| my memory (also system) performance
_____

Try using the memory benchmarks in SiSoft Sandra Lite.
I don't know exactly what the 2 X memory multiplier means for your
motherboard, but for my E4300 / EVGA 680i overclocked to 2.7 GHz system I
get
Memory Latency Benchmark (Random & Linear)
Cache & Memory (Combined Index)
CPU clock 300 MHz : Memory clock 200 MHz (memory bus 400 MHz)
Random 16 MByte blocks: 118.9 ns 321.1 clocks
Linear 16 MByte blocks: 11.7 ns 41.6 clocks
Combined Index: 12548
CPU clock 300 MHz : Memory clock 300 MHz (memory bus 600 MHz)
Random 16 MByte blocks: 91.9 ns 247.8 clocks
Linear 16 MByte blocks: 11.7 ns 31.5 clocks
Combined Index: 15075
CPU clock 300 MHz : Memory clock 400 MHz (memory bus 800 MHz)
Random 16 MByte blocks: 81.9 ns 221.2 clocks
Linear 16 MByte blocks: 11.1 ns 29.9 clocks
Combined Index: 166384
CPU clock 300 MHz : Memory clock 600 MHz (memory bus 1200 MHz)
Random 16 MByte blocks: 63.5 ns 171.3 clocks
Linear 16 MByte blocks: 9.3 ns 25.4 clocks
Combined Index: 18413.

My current belief is that any memory clock above the CPU clock helps overall
available bandwidth to be shared by(CPU/PCI-E/PCI) but does not increase the
bandwidth for the CPU alone. So for intensive use of the PCI-E index the
performance of memory bus speeds higher than the FSB speeds would show a
noticable improvement. For applications that do not make extensive of the
PCI-E bus there would be little improvement.

Perhaps you can try the SiSoft Sandra benchmarks and post the results. That
would help show the equivalent settings for the Gigabyte BIOS and the nVidia
680i BIOS.

Phil Weldon



"afi777" <afi777.DeleteThis@gazeta.pl> wrote in message
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| Heywood Jablowme napisa³(a):
| > afi777,
| > I have the same problem that you described (CPU returning back to
| > 1.8ghz). It doesn't happen 100% of the time, but more than half of the
time
| > ?? I am convinced that it is a problem with the motherboard BIOS. I
never
| > turn my computer off so I don't have to change the BIOS Memory
multiplier
| > back to 2.0X too often. Did you look at the web page (Tom's Hardware)
that
| > I posted on a previous message?? It has some good recommendations for
| > voltages that might help you get higher speeds. I have a Scythe CPU
cooler
| > and big Antec case so I can push the processor over 3 ghz without much
| > trouble. I bought premium OCZ memory but it isn't overclocking too
well.
| > The BIOS doesn't allow playing with timing (that I could find).
Regards
| >
| >
| I discovered that when I change memory multipier to 1.5 , computer
| normally restarting with 2.6ghz settigns. but tell me how much its lower
| my memory (also system) performance ?
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'Heywood Jablowme' wrote, in part:
| trouble. I bought premium OCZ memory but it isn't overclocking too well.
| The BIOS doesn't allow playing with timing (that I could find).
_____

Perhaps your OCZ memory has extended SPD values (also called SLI-ready) that
need to be used for overclocking. Can you read out the SPD values,
including any extended values? What is the part number of your OCZ memory?

Phil Weldon

"Heywood Jablowme" <a.DeleteThis@a.a> wrote in message
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| afi777,
| I have the same problem that you described (CPU returning back to
| 1.8ghz). It doesn't happen 100% of the time, but more than half of the
time
| ?? I am convinced that it is a problem with the motherboard BIOS. I
never
| turn my computer off so I don't have to change the BIOS Memory multiplier
| back to 2.0X too often. Did you look at the web page (Tom's Hardware)
that
| I posted on a previous message?? It has some good recommendations for
| voltages that might help you get higher speeds. I have a Scythe CPU
cooler
| and big Antec case so I can push the processor over 3 ghz without much
| trouble. I bought premium OCZ memory but it isn't overclocking too well.
| The BIOS doesn't allow playing with timing (that I could find). Regards
|
|
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