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Mark C.

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:41 pm
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I bought an XPC World Cyber Games edition a couple of years ago strictly for
gaming. It's not overclocked or anything and has separate sound and video
boards instead of the onboard stuff and 1G of Kingston memory. Suddenly one
day I went to turn it on and got nothing but the fan running continuously no
post screen or anything. I turned it on and off a bit and finally got it to
boot. It then gave me a message that Bios had changed but I didn't notice
anything different when it prompted me to enter bios and save the current
settings. Now if windows boots it'll freeze on me sometimes when I'm playing
or even starting a game so I'll have to hit the reset button and guess what?
It does the same thing all over again. Does this sound like My MOBO is going
out? what can I do to test it? Is Shuttle pretty good about repairing or
replacing defective MOBOs? TIA.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 11:29 pm
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"Mark C." <mustango656.TakeThisOut@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>I bought an XPC World Cyber Games edition a couple of years ago strictly
>for gaming. It's not overclocked or anything and has separate sound and
>video boards instead of the onboard stuff and 1G of Kingston memory.
>Suddenly one day I went to turn it on and got nothing but the fan running
>continuously no post screen or anything. I turned it on and off a bit and
>finally got it to boot. It then gave me a message that Bios had changed but
>I didn't notice anything different when it prompted me to enter bios and
>save the current settings. Now if windows boots it'll freeze on me
>sometimes when I'm playing or even starting a game so I'll have to hit the
>reset button and guess what? It does the same thing all over again. Does
>this sound like My MOBO is going out? what can I do to test it? Is Shuttle
>pretty good about repairing or replacing defective MOBOs? TIA.
> --
> Mark
> --
>
>

Update: Here's the exact message I get when it does boot up:

Warning CPU has changed. Please re-enter CPU settings in the CMOS setup and
remember to save before quit!

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:01 pm
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On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 23:29:21 -0700, "Mark C." <mustango656 RemoveThis @comcast.net>
had a flock of green cheek conures squawk out:

>"Mark C." <mustango656 RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:dp-dnW4b3uueaTDZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>I bought an XPC World Cyber Games edition a couple of years ago strictly
>>for gaming. It's not overclocked or anything and has separate sound and
>>video boards instead of the onboard stuff and 1G of Kingston memory.
>>Suddenly one day I went to turn it on and got nothing but the fan running
>>continuously no post screen or anything. I turned it on and off a bit and
>>finally got it to boot. It then gave me a message that Bios had changed but
>>I didn't notice anything different when it prompted me to enter bios and
>>save the current settings. Now if windows boots it'll freeze on me
>>sometimes when I'm playing or even starting a game so I'll have to hit the
>>reset button and guess what? It does the same thing all over again. Does
>>this sound like My MOBO is going out? what can I do to test it? Is Shuttle
>>pretty good about repairing or replacing defective MOBOs? TIA.
>> --
>> Mark
>> --
>>
>>
>
>Update: Here's the exact message I get when it does boot up:
>
>Warning CPU has changed. Please re-enter CPU settings in the CMOS setup and
>remember to save before quit!

It could be a dying CMOS battery. Replace it and see if it's cured.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:01 pm
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"Stephen" <yes DeleteThis @its.invalid> wrote in message
news:691ta2hd0r3hv1bsi3l84cbnntpbd3gi1g@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 23:29:21 -0700, "Mark C." <mustango656 DeleteThis @comcast.net>
> had a flock of green cheek conures squawk out:
>
>>"Mark C." <mustango656 DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:dp-dnW4b3uueaTDZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>I bought an XPC World Cyber Games edition a couple of years ago strictly
>>>for gaming. It's not overclocked or anything and has separate sound and
>>>video boards instead of the onboard stuff and 1G of Kingston memory.
>>>Suddenly one day I went to turn it on and got nothing but the fan running
>>>continuously no post screen or anything. I turned it on and off a bit and
>>>finally got it to boot. It then gave me a message that Bios had changed
>>>but
>>>I didn't notice anything different when it prompted me to enter bios and
>>>save the current settings. Now if windows boots it'll freeze on me
>>>sometimes when I'm playing or even starting a game so I'll have to hit
>>>the
>>>reset button and guess what? It does the same thing all over again. Does
>>>this sound like My MOBO is going out? what can I do to test it? Is
>>>Shuttle
>>>pretty good about repairing or replacing defective MOBOs? TIA.
>>> --
>>> Mark
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Update: Here's the exact message I get when it does boot up:
>>
>>Warning CPU has changed. Please re-enter CPU settings in the CMOS setup
>>and
>>remember to save before quit!
>
> It could be a dying CMOS battery. Replace it and see if it's cured.
>
> Stephen
> --



Hi Stephen, When I check the system voltages in setup the battery is putting
out its full voltage.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:37 pm
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On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 09:53:56 -0700, "Mark C." <mustango656.RemoveThis@comcast.net>
had a flock of green cheek conures squawk out:

>"Stephen" <yes.RemoveThis@its.invalid> wrote in message
>news:691ta2hd0r3hv1bsi3l84cbnntpbd3gi1g@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 23:29:21 -0700, "Mark C." <mustango656.RemoveThis@comcast.net>
>> had a flock of green cheek conures squawk out:
>>
>>>"Mark C." <mustango656.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:dp-dnW4b3uueaTDZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>I bought an XPC World Cyber Games edition a couple of years ago strictly
>>>>for gaming. It's not overclocked or anything and has separate sound and
>>>>video boards instead of the onboard stuff and 1G of Kingston memory.
>>>>Suddenly one day I went to turn it on and got nothing but the fan running
>>>>continuously no post screen or anything. I turned it on and off a bit and
>>>>finally got it to boot. It then gave me a message that Bios had changed
>>>>but
>>>>I didn't notice anything different when it prompted me to enter bios and
>>>>save the current settings. Now if windows boots it'll freeze on me
>>>>sometimes when I'm playing or even starting a game so I'll have to hit
>>>>the
>>>>reset button and guess what? It does the same thing all over again. Does
>>>>this sound like My MOBO is going out? what can I do to test it? Is
>>>>Shuttle
>>>>pretty good about repairing or replacing defective MOBOs? TIA.
>>>> --
>>>> Mark
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Update: Here's the exact message I get when it does boot up:
>>>
>>>Warning CPU has changed. Please re-enter CPU settings in the CMOS setup
>>>and
>>>remember to save before quit!
>>
>> It could be a dying CMOS battery. Replace it and see if it's cured.
>>
>> Stephen
>> --
>
>
>
>Hi Stephen, When I check the system voltages in setup the battery is putting
>out its full voltage.

Have you tried clearing the CMOS using the jumper?

Another thing to check is for bulging or leaking capacitors.

Stephen
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:07 pm
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"Stephen" <yes DeleteThis @its.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 09:53:56 -0700, "Mark C." <mustango656 DeleteThis @comcast.net>
> had a flock of green cheek conures squawk out:
>
>>"Stephen" <yes DeleteThis @its.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:691ta2hd0r3hv1bsi3l84cbnntpbd3gi1g@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 23:29:21 -0700, "Mark C." <mustango656 DeleteThis @comcast.net>
>>> had a flock of green cheek conures squawk out:
>>>
>>>>"Mark C." <mustango656 DeleteThis @comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:dp-dnW4b3uueaTDZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>I bought an XPC World Cyber Games edition a couple of years ago
>>>>>strictly
>>>>>for gaming. It's not overclocked or anything and has separate sound and
>>>>>video boards instead of the onboard stuff and 1G of Kingston memory.
>>>>>Suddenly one day I went to turn it on and got nothing but the fan
>>>>>running
>>>>>continuously no post screen or anything. I turned it on and off a bit
>>>>>and
>>>>>finally got it to boot. It then gave me a message that Bios had changed
>>>>>but
>>>>>I didn't notice anything different when it prompted me to enter bios
>>>>>and
>>>>>save the current settings. Now if windows boots it'll freeze on me
>>>>>sometimes when I'm playing or even starting a game so I'll have to hit
>>>>>the
>>>>>reset button and guess what? It does the same thing all over again.
>>>>>Does
>>>>>this sound like My MOBO is going out? what can I do to test it? Is
>>>>>Shuttle
>>>>>pretty good about repairing or replacing defective MOBOs? TIA.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Update: Here's the exact message I get when it does boot up:
>>>>
>>>>Warning CPU has changed. Please re-enter CPU settings in the CMOS setup
>>>>and
>>>>remember to save before quit!
>>>
>>> It could be a dying CMOS battery. Replace it and see if it's cured.
>>>
>>> Stephen
>>> --
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi Stephen, When I check the system voltages in setup the battery is
>>putting
>>out its full voltage.
>
> Have you tried clearing the CMOS using the jumper?
>
> Another thing to check is for bulging or leaking capacitors.
>
> Stephen
> --

No, capacitors look ok. I haven't cleared the CMOS but that wouldn't explain
the system suddenly freezing up. I did notice my voltages were a bit on the
low side in the p/c health menu. I'm talking hundredths of a volt. I don't
know if that would be the culprit though.

Mark
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:09 pm
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Maybe we got screwed. A couple weeks ago my world cyber games edition
machine started doing random reboots. I've restored it to factory
settings and it is still randomly rebooting, only more often now. I'm
not getting any bios messages, nothing shows up in the event log.
Turning verifier on only produces a BSOD with a message saying STOP and
a bunch of numbers.

This is really a mess! I've got several gig of photos I need to
process, and this little laptop I'm using now simply won't do the job.
Is there any chance at all this condition can be fixed, or was it an
expensive mistake to think that the WCG machines were good?




Mark C. wrote:
> I bought an XPC World Cyber Games edition a couple of years ago strictly for
> gaming. It's not overclocked or anything and has separate sound and video
> boards instead of the onboard stuff and 1G of Kingston memory. Suddenly one
> day I went to turn it on and got nothing but the fan running continuously no
> post screen or anything. I turned it on and off a bit and finally got it to
> boot. It then gave me a message that Bios had changed but I didn't notice
> anything different when it prompted me to enter bios and save the current
> settings. Now if windows boots it'll freeze on me sometimes when I'm playing
> or even starting a game so I'll have to hit the reset button and guess what?
> It does the same thing all over again. Does this sound like My MOBO is going
> out? what can I do to test it? Is Shuttle pretty good about repairing or
> replacing defective MOBOs? TIA.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:36 am
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It's hardware somewhere. I turned it on this morning and went directly
to the bios setup. Left it there on the health screen. Voltages all
within .1, e.g. 4.94 instead of 5. After about 15 minutes it simply
shut down.

any hints or links as to how to figure out which piece of hardware?


redwoodtwig.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> Maybe we got screwed. A couple weeks ago my world cyber games edition
> machine started doing random reboots. I've restored it to factory
> settings and it is still randomly rebooting, only more often now. I'm
> not getting any bios messages, nothing shows up in the event log.
> Turning verifier on only produces a BSOD with a message saying STOP and
> a bunch of numbers.
>
> This is really a mess! I've got several gig of photos I need to
> process, and this little laptop I'm using now simply won't do the job.
> Is there any chance at all this condition can be fixed, or was it an
> expensive mistake to think that the WCG machines were good?
>
>
>
>
> Mark C. wrote:
> > I bought an XPC World Cyber Games edition a couple of years ago strictly for
> > gaming. It's not overclocked or anything and has separate sound and video
> > boards instead of the onboard stuff and 1G of Kingston memory. Suddenly one
> > day I went to turn it on and got nothing but the fan running continuously no
> > post screen or anything. I turned it on and off a bit and finally got it to
> > boot. It then gave me a message that Bios had changed but I didn't notice
> > anything different when it prompted me to enter bios and save the current
> > settings. Now if windows boots it'll freeze on me sometimes when I'm playing
> > or even starting a game so I'll have to hit the reset button and guess what?
> > It does the same thing all over again. Does this sound like My MOBO is going
> > out? what can I do to test it? Is Shuttle pretty good about repairing or
> > replacing defective MOBOs? TIA.
> > --
> > Mark
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:29 am
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Thanks. I was beginning to look at the power supply, I guess I'll just
go ahead and order one. Just wish I hadn't tried the factory restore,
since now I've got to reinstall my working suite.

I looked for another place to plug in the main fan, but can't see any
other header with the same shape.

Crossing my fingers, and thanks again,

Brandon

Eric Parker wrote:
> <redwoodtwig.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1154176565.160435.262580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> > It's hardware somewhere. I turned it on this morning and went
> directly
> > to the bios setup. Left it there on the health screen. Voltages
> all
> > within .1, e.g. 4.94 instead of 5. After about 15 minutes it simply
> > shut down.
> >
> > any hints or links as to how to figure out which piece of hardware?
> >
> >
> > redwoodtwig.TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Maybe we got screwed. A couple weeks ago my world cyber games
> edition
> > > machine started doing random reboots. I've restored it to factory
> > > settings and it is still randomly rebooting, only more often now.
> I'm
> > > not getting any bios messages, nothing shows up in the event log.
> > > Turning verifier on only produces a BSOD with a message saying
> STOP and
> > > a bunch of numbers.
> > >
> > > This is really a mess! I've got several gig of photos I need to
> > > process, and this little laptop I'm using now simply won't do the
> job.
> > > Is there any chance at all this condition can be fixed, or was it
> an
> > > expensive mistake to think that the WCG machines were good?
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> Have you tried blowing air through it to clear the dust ?
>
> I've had to replace quite a few Shuttle PSUs, so I'd probably go for
> that.
> It may be down to caps.
> These normally distort and leak.
> You have to extract the PSU and dismantle it to see if it's the caps
> there.
>
> I've also had trouble with whatever drives the main fan in a couple of
> shuttles.
> They both would stop driving the main fan, whatever the bios setting.
> This caused a shutdown.
> I switched them over to the other M/B header, but they also went duff
> eventually.
> They are now cooled by a constant 7volts.
>
> Eric
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:53 am
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<redwoodtwig RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1154176565.160435.262580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> It's hardware somewhere. I turned it on this morning and went
directly
> to the bios setup. Left it there on the health screen. Voltages
all
> within .1, e.g. 4.94 instead of 5. After about 15 minutes it simply
> shut down.
>
> any hints or links as to how to figure out which piece of hardware?
>
>
> redwoodtwig RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> > Maybe we got screwed. A couple weeks ago my world cyber games
edition
> > machine started doing random reboots. I've restored it to factory
> > settings and it is still randomly rebooting, only more often now.
I'm
> > not getting any bios messages, nothing shows up in the event log.
> > Turning verifier on only produces a BSOD with a message saying
STOP and
> > a bunch of numbers.
> >
> > This is really a mess! I've got several gig of photos I need to
> > process, and this little laptop I'm using now simply won't do the
job.
> > Is there any chance at all this condition can be fixed, or was it
an
> > expensive mistake to think that the WCG machines were good?
> >
> >
>

Have you tried blowing air through it to clear the dust ?

I've had to replace quite a few Shuttle PSUs, so I'd probably go for
that.
It may be down to caps.
These normally distort and leak.
You have to extract the PSU and dismantle it to see if it's the caps
there.

I've also had trouble with whatever drives the main fan in a couple of
shuttles.
They both would stop driving the main fan, whatever the bios setting.
This caused a shutdown.
I switched them over to the other M/B header, but they also went duff
eventually.
They are now cooled by a constant 7volts.

Eric

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:36 pm
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Got the new power supply, went in without a hitch. perhaps five
minutes into starting to see what I had, it rebooted. Nothing in the
event log. One interesting thing is that this laptop, which is plugged
into the same outlet, beeped twice. As if maybe there was a power
surge coming from the shuttle? Or a sudden draw down? I don't know
what would cause the lap top to beep twice.

Could this possibly something wrong with the power to this outlet?

I've peered inside with a flashlight, all the caps appear to be ok, no
swelling. Dust is gone long ago.

I'll try another outlet, though there aren't any extra in this room.



Eric Parker wrote:
> <redwoodtwig.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1154176565.160435.262580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> > It's hardware somewhere. I turned it on this morning and went
> directly
> > to the bios setup. Left it there on the health screen. Voltages
> all
> > within .1, e.g. 4.94 instead of 5. After about 15 minutes it simply
> > shut down.
> >
> > any hints or links as to how to figure out which piece of hardware?
> >
> >
> > redwoodtwig.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Maybe we got screwed. A couple weeks ago my world cyber games
> edition
> > > machine started doing random reboots. I've restored it to factory
> > > settings and it is still randomly rebooting, only more often now.
> I'm
> > > not getting any bios messages, nothing shows up in the event log.
> > > Turning verifier on only produces a BSOD with a message saying
> STOP and
> > > a bunch of numbers.
> > >
> > > This is really a mess! I've got several gig of photos I need to
> > > process, and this little laptop I'm using now simply won't do the
> job.
> > > Is there any chance at all this condition can be fixed, or was it
> an
> > > expensive mistake to think that the WCG machines were good?
> > >
> > >
> >
>
> Have you tried blowing air through it to clear the dust ?
>
> I've had to replace quite a few Shuttle PSUs, so I'd probably go for
> that.
> It may be down to caps.
> These normally distort and leak.
> You have to extract the PSU and dismantle it to see if it's the caps
> there.
>
> I've also had trouble with whatever drives the main fan in a couple of
> shuttles.
> They both would stop driving the main fan, whatever the bios setting.
> This caused a shutdown.
> I switched them over to the other M/B header, but they also went duff
> eventually.
> They are now cooled by a constant 7volts.
>
> Eric
>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:51 am
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Ran an extension cord from another outlet and that seems to have done
the trick. So at least i got to clean out all the extra stuff and
reinstall everything. And lose a week.

Anyone need a power supply, this is the 250W xpc internal power supply?

Any hints on how i could have detected or measured the power at the
outlet? The gounding is ok, and when I check voltage it appears to be
ok.

So, if you have similar problems, might want to try another outlet
before panic...




redwoodtwig.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> Got the new power supply, went in without a hitch. perhaps five
> minutes into starting to see what I had, it rebooted. Nothing in the
> event log. One interesting thing is that this laptop, which is plugged
> into the same outlet, beeped twice. As if maybe there was a power
> surge coming from the shuttle? Or a sudden draw down? I don't know
> what would cause the lap top to beep twice.
>
> Could this possibly something wrong with the power to this outlet?
>
> I've peered inside with a flashlight, all the caps appear to be ok, no
> swelling. Dust is gone long ago.
>
> I'll try another outlet, though there aren't any extra in this room.
>
>
>
> Eric Parker wrote:
> > <redwoodtwig.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1154176565.160435.262580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> > > It's hardware somewhere. I turned it on this morning and went
> > directly
> > > to the bios setup. Left it there on the health screen. Voltages
> > all
> > > within .1, e.g. 4.94 instead of 5. After about 15 minutes it simply
> > > shut down.
> > >
> > > any hints or links as to how to figure out which piece of hardware?
> > >
> > >
> > > redwoodtwig.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Maybe we got screwed. A couple weeks ago my world cyber games
> > edition
> > > > machine started doing random reboots. I've restored it to factory
> > > > settings and it is still randomly rebooting, only more often now.
> > I'm
> > > > not getting any bios messages, nothing shows up in the event log.
> > > > Turning verifier on only produces a BSOD with a message saying
> > STOP and
> > > > a bunch of numbers.
> > > >
> > > > This is really a mess! I've got several gig of photos I need to
> > > > process, and this little laptop I'm using now simply won't do the
> > job.
> > > > Is there any chance at all this condition can be fixed, or was it
> > an
> > > > expensive mistake to think that the WCG machines were good?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > Have you tried blowing air through it to clear the dust ?
> >
> > I've had to replace quite a few Shuttle PSUs, so I'd probably go for
> > that.
> > It may be down to caps.
> > These normally distort and leak.
> > You have to extract the PSU and dismantle it to see if it's the caps
> > there.
> >
> > I've also had trouble with whatever drives the main fan in a couple of
> > shuttles.
> > They both would stop driving the main fan, whatever the bios setting.
> > This caused a shutdown.
> > I switched them over to the other M/B header, but they also went duff
> > eventually.
> > They are now cooled by a constant 7volts.
> >
> > Eric
> >
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:04 am
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In message <evqva25css5loaaqlholuqhfbpi5bs503u.DeleteThis@4ax.com>, Stephen
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>On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 09:53:56 -0700, "Mark C." <mustango656.DeleteThis@comcast.net>
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>>"Stephen" <yes.DeleteThis@its.invalid> wrote in message
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>>> On Thu, 6 Jul 2006 23:29:21 -0700, "Mark C." <mustango656.DeleteThis@comcast.net>
>>> had a flock of green cheek conures squawk out:
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>>>>"Mark C." <mustango656.DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:dp-dnW4b3uueaTDZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>I bought an XPC World Cyber Games edition a couple of years ago strictly
>>>>>for gaming. It's not overclocked or anything and has separate sound and
>>>>>video boards instead of the onboard stuff and 1G of Kingston memory.
>>>>>Suddenly one day I went to turn it on and got nothing but the fan running
>>>>>continuously no post screen or anything. I turned it on and off a bit and
>>>>>finally got it to boot. It then gave me a message that Bios had changed
>>>>>but
>>>>>I didn't notice anything different when it prompted me to enter bios and
>>>>>save the current settings. Now if windows boots it'll freeze on me
>>>>>sometimes when I'm playing or even starting a game so I'll have to hit
>>>>>the
>>>>>reset button and guess what? It does the same thing all over again. Does
>>>>>this sound like My MOBO is going out? what can I do to test it? Is
>>>>>Shuttle
>>>>>pretty good about repairing or replacing defective MOBOs? TIA.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mark
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Update: Here's the exact message I get when it does boot up:
>>>>
>>>>Warning CPU has changed. Please re-enter CPU settings in the CMOS setup
>>>>and
>>>>remember to save before quit!
>>>
>>> It could be a dying CMOS battery. Replace it and see if it's cured.
>>>
>>> Stephen
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>>
>>
>>Hi Stephen, When I check the system voltages in setup the battery is putting
>>out its full voltage.
>
>Have you tried clearing the CMOS using the jumper?
>
>Another thing to check is for bulging or leaking capacitors.
>
>Stephen


What is bulging capacitors a sign of?

I have a cap or two that looks like it might be bulging or even leaking!


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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:33 am
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"Nospam" <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> What is bulging capacitors a sign of?
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> I have a cap or two that looks like it might be bulging or even
leaking!
>
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

Eric

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In message <44fa7751$0$3230$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>, Eric
Parker <newsnet.TakeThisOut@thedrossericparker.plus.com> writes
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>"Nospam" <nospam.TakeThisOut@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> What is bulging capacitors a sign of?
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>> I have a cap or two that looks like it might be bulging or even
>leaking!
>>
>>
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>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague
>
>Eric
>

Now that was very interesting thanks.

My PC has been a bit unstable of late. I have had to reinstall windows
several times in the last few weeks. I thought I had fixed it when I
removed one of the memory modules but after a while it happened again.

I am going to have a look at the motherboard in more details as I'm sure
I have a dodgy cap by the CPU.

might try and replace it myself, been a while since I touched a
soldering iron thought.

But I was thinking of a new PC anyway so it goes wrong no real loss, the
instability of the system is causing more trouble than its worth.

Cant get any real work done spend hours reinstalling software and
drivers.

Thanks for the link.

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