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kony

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:14 am
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:35:53 -0400, Bob Brown INC.
<sillyspammers DeleteThis @bots.dumb> wrote:

>On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 03:40:56 GMT, John Doe <jdoe DeleteThis @usenetlove.invalid>
>Let everyone including the NSAs Internet database storage program know
>as they typed on their keyboard faster than a monkey on crack the
>following:
>
>>"Don Phillipson" <d.phillipsonSPAMBLOCK ncf.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> "Bob Brown INC." <sillyspammers bots.dumb> wrote in message
>>
>>>> I do have the permission of the other people to record these
>>>> conversations in case you were curious. . . .
>>
>>> Have you asked Yahoo whether Voice software prevents recording the
>>> other party's voice for the obvious legal reasons?
>>
>>The original poster already addressed that issue, but I'll bite the
>>troll.
>
>
>I'm not trolling, this is a real issue. I have a headset, bought a
>voip service and need to record the conversations.
>
>Why is 99% of posts pre-suspected as a troll?


Remember the salem witch trials? It's easier to burn 'em
all than take a chance.

To record you need a sound card driver, user interface
control panel that supports recording from the "mixer", all
output recording. Maybe your driver UI has this
functionality, or maybe if you're using windows' driver you
can get the full chipset driver that will afford this
functionality.

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:26 am
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Bob Brown INC. <sillyspammers bots.dumb> wrote:

....

> wtf did I do wrong?

1. Scroll up. Clearly I wasn't replying to you.

2. You attracted an obsessed troll (JAD).

3. You are going off on a tangent.

Calm down and learn how to read a thread.








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(Msg. 18) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:36 am
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Bob Brown INC. <sillyspammers bots.dumb> wrote:

....
> I'm about ready to BURN this headset I bought.

If it's that big of a deal, get professional help.
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:16 am
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kony <spam spam.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:35:53 -0400, Bob Brown INC.
> <sillyspammers bots.dumb> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 03:40:56 GMT, John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid>
>>Let everyone including the NSAs Internet database storage program know
>>as they typed on their keyboard faster than a monkey on crack the
>>following:
>>
>>>"Don Phillipson" <d.phillipsonSPAMBLOCK ncf.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Bob Brown INC." <sillyspammers bots.dumb> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>> I do have the permission of the other people to record these
>>>>> conversations in case you were curious. . . .
>>>
>>>> Have you asked Yahoo whether Voice software prevents recording the
>>>> other party's voice for the obvious legal reasons?
>>>
>>>The original poster already addressed that issue, but I'll bite the
>>>troll.
>>
>>
>>I'm not trolling, this is a real issue. I have a headset, bought a
>>voip service and need to record the conversations.
>>
>>Why is 99% of posts pre-suspected as a troll?
>
>
> Remember the salem witch trials? It's easier to burn 'em
> all than take a chance.

You might want to enlighten yourself by actually reading
what you are supposedly describing.

Hint: the issue you see doesn't exist, it is a figment
of Bob Brown's imagination









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(Msg. 20) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:14 pm
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 06:26:05 GMT, John Doe <jdoe.DeleteThis@usenetlove.invalid>
Let everyone including the NSAs Internet database storage program know
as they typed on their keyboard faster than a monkey on crack the
following:

>Bob Brown INC. <sillyspammers bots.dumb> wrote:
>
>...
>
>> wtf did I do wrong?
>
>1. Scroll up. Clearly I wasn't replying to you.
>
>2. You attracted an obsessed troll (JAD).
>
>3. You are going off on a tangent.
>
>Calm down and learn how to read a thread.

I'm just so upset that something this simple is this hard. Hell, I've
built a dozen computers and can't do this?
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Bob Brown INC.

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:18 pm
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 04:14:36 -0400, kony <spam DeleteThis @spam.com> Let everyone
including the NSAs Internet database storage program know as they
typed on their keyboard faster than a monkey on crack the following:

>To record you need a sound card driver, user interface
>control panel that supports recording from the "mixer", all
>output recording. Maybe your driver UI has this
>functionality, or maybe if you're using windows' driver you
>can get the full chipset driver that will afford this
>functionality.

I've tried using the drivers for the sound card, then only use the
default winXp sound abilities. It doesn't work either way.

This seems to be a software/setting issue to me since I clearly have
holes in the sound card for such a headset.

I'm just a tad angry since I can't figure this out.
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JAD

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:18 pm
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ok wait lets talk about the headset what is it?
does it have a line out minijack or something?

"Bob Brown INC." <sillyspammers.RemoveThis@bots.dumb> wrote in message
news:ke0d835cpclt7ob7sm0tpicm83p192f5r9@bbb.org...
> On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 04:14:36 -0400, kony <spam.RemoveThis@spam.com> Let everyone
> including the NSAs Internet database storage program know as they
> typed on their keyboard faster than a monkey on crack the following:
>
>>To record you need a sound card driver, user interface
>>control panel that supports recording from the "mixer", all
>>output recording. Maybe your driver UI has this
>>functionality, or maybe if you're using windows' driver you
>>can get the full chipset driver that will afford this
>>functionality.
>
> I've tried using the drivers for the sound card, then only use the
> default winXp sound abilities. It doesn't work either way.
>
> This seems to be a software/setting issue to me since I clearly have
> holes in the sound card for such a headset.
>
> I'm just a tad angry since I can't figure this out.
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Bob Brown INC.

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:42 pm
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:53:15 -0500, Frank McCoy <mccoyf.RemoveThis@millcomm.com>
Let everyone including the NSAs Internet database storage program know
as they typed on their keyboard faster than a monkey on crack the
following:

>>I downloaded that program and installed it. It makes no sense, their
>>doesn't seem to be a program to "run"?
>>Just some references to folders with more files with no sense it seems
>>as to which once you use.
>>
>>I'm using winxp, seems this app was written for linux too.
>>
>Hmmm ... I'm thinking you got the Linux version.
>With XP, when installed, you should get a program called Audacity.exe;
>generally in the C:\Program Files\Audacity directory.
>
>There should also be a audacity-1.2-help.htb help-file, a licence.txt
>file, and some uninstall stuff.
>You might also find some subdirectories for plugins, languages, and
>other stuff.
>
>The file you installed with should have been something like:
>audacity-win-1.2.4b.exe; which would have created all the above.


Hey Frank.

Someone in this thread suggested I go and download a file at this
location: http://oreka.sourceforge.net/download/
It installed [2] items
1.Orkaudio
2.WinPcap

Obviously that had to be the wrong url since that install does nothing
for me.

I did a search for the Audacity and found the following URL
http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/windows

I downloaded and installed the windows version.
No matter which input/output source I choose it still will not record
the voices coming through the ear piece??

I'm willing to try another, or 100, more downloads if you have a
suggestion. I'm losing my mind at this point.

thanks
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:43 pm
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 07:36:09 GMT, John Doe <jdoe.TakeThisOut@usenetlove.invalid>
Let everyone including the NSAs Internet database storage program know
as they typed on their keyboard faster than a monkey on crack the
following:

>Bob Brown INC. <sillyspammers bots.dumb> wrote:
>
>...
>> I'm about ready to BURN this headset I bought.
>
>If it's that big of a deal, get professional help.

You've never expressed frustration with hardware/software conflicts???
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:33 pm
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"Bob Brown INC." <sillyspammers.TakeThisOut@bots.dumb> wrote in message
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> Audacity was the program I was about to suggest using ....
> >It solved *my* recording problems.
>
> I downloaded that program and installed it. It makes no sense, their
> doesn't seem to be a program to "run"?
> Just some references to folders with more files with no sense it seems
> as to which once you use.
>
> I'm using winxp, seems this app was written for linux too.
>
> I'm about ready to BURN this headset I bought.

Audacity was written for Linux and ported to Windows.
Its funnctions are similar to SoundMAX (SOB on ASUS
MBs) i.e. substantially less than Creative software
supplied with Audigy sound cards.

Assuming Voice software will not record both ends
of a phone call (for obvious legal reasons) the user
needs (1) a mixer that displays signals for both ends
of the phone call, (2) a sound recorder that writes to
file the mixer output.

Of course if a PC has SOB and the user adds a
better audio card he must also disable SOB via BIOS.
(That's what I did when the ASUS SoundMAX circuit
simply died and I installed an Audigy card.)

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(Ottawa, Canada)
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:26 pm
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In article <f64aus$5jt$1@theodyn.ncf.ca>, d.phillipsonSPAMBLOCK DeleteThis @ncf.ca
says...
> "Bob Brown INC." <sillyspammers DeleteThis @bots.dumb> wrote in message
> news:pr7b83pu86cebu8a8kai2vmobambemjro2@bbb.org...
>
> > I'm using Yahoo's Voice to make/receive phone calls. I would like to
> > 'record' each conversation I have.
> >
> > I do have the permission of the other people to record these
> > conversations in case you were curious. . . .
> >
> > I am ABLE to record MY voice during the conversation but the other
> > person's voice doesn't record?
>
> Have you asked Yahoo whether Voice software
> prevents recording the other party's voice for the
> obvious legal reasons?
>
>
Have you tried 'Total Recorder'? May do what you need.

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(Msg. 27) Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:32 pm
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In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Bob Brown INC.
<sillyspammers DeleteThis @bots.dumb> wrote:

>On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:53:15 -0500, Frank McCoy <mccoyf DeleteThis @millcomm.com>
>Let everyone including the NSAs Internet database storage program know
>as they typed on their keyboard faster than a monkey on crack the
>following:
>
>>>I downloaded that program and installed it. It makes no sense, their
>>>doesn't seem to be a program to "run"?
>>>Just some references to folders with more files with no sense it seems
>>>as to which once you use.
>>>
>>>I'm using winxp, seems this app was written for linux too.
>>>
>>Hmmm ... I'm thinking you got the Linux version.
>>With XP, when installed, you should get a program called Audacity.exe;
>>generally in the C:\Program Files\Audacity directory.
>>
>>There should also be a audacity-1.2-help.htb help-file, a licence.txt
>>file, and some uninstall stuff.
>>You might also find some subdirectories for plugins, languages, and
>>other stuff.
>>
>>The file you installed with should have been something like:
>>audacity-win-1.2.4b.exe; which would have created all the above.
>
>
>Hey Frank.
>
>Someone in this thread suggested I go and download a file at this
>location: http://oreka.sourceforge.net/download/
>It installed [2] items
>1.Orkaudio
>2.WinPcap
>
>Obviously that had to be the wrong url since that install does nothing
>for me.
>
>I did a search for the Audacity and found the following URL
>http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/windows
>
>I downloaded and installed the windows version.
>No matter which input/output source I choose it still will not record
>the voices coming through the ear piece??
>
>I'm willing to try another, or 100, more downloads if you have a
>suggestion. I'm losing my mind at this point.
>
>thanks

OK ... NEXT, double click on the selections in Audacity to see what
inputs it gives you. I have:
Aux
Video
CD Player
Line-In
Mic
Stereo Mixer

After that, double click on your sound control (The speaker icon on your
taskbar) and see which of the inputs/output that muting will stop or
start what you want going to your speakers.

Ideally, you want THAT input as input to Audacity.
However, my guess is that you probably have Wave as the desired input
.... and that's not listed on Audacity. ;-{

To do that however, might take some finagling.
Here's a website I found that tells how to fool the system several
different ways for Audacity:
http://www.podcastalley.com/forum/showthread.php?t=130245

Who knows?
Some of those solutions might just work for other sound recorders other
than Audacity.

Mapping one sound-source over to another, or the output as a fake input
would probably work; though that last is liable to make for feedback.

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(Msg. 28) Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:20 am
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Well guys I fixed it finally. I can now record the whole phone
conversation.

Amazingly it was a piece of software no one here ever mentioned, no
biggie.

Thanks for all of you trying to help me out.

Have a nice century.
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:35 am
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Bob Brown INC. wrote:
> Well guys I fixed it finally. I can now record the whole phone
> conversation.
>
> Amazingly it was a piece of software no one here ever mentioned, no
> biggie.
>
> Thanks for all of you trying to help me out.
>
> Have a nice century.
>

We cannot admire the ultimate cleverness of your solution, if
you don't tell us what it is.
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 5:18 am
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Paul <nospam.RemoveThis@needed.com> wrote:

> Bob Brown INC. wrote:
>> Well guys I fixed it finally.

>> Amazingly it was a piece of software no one here ever mentioned, no
>> biggie.

> We cannot admire the ultimate cleverness of your solution, if
> you don't tell us what it is.

We have his forgiveness, what more is there?
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