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Since: May 21, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri May 21, 2004 10:22 pm
Post subject: any ideas?
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Hey, I've a Lite-On LTR24102B CDRW, a Matshita DVD ROM and an old Maxtor 3
Fireball 40Gb HD. Lately I've been having strange problems on the Secondary
channel, the LTR is master and the Matshita is slave... On startup on the
BIOS check, it recognises and displays the HD fine, then when it gets to the
LTR & Mitsumi,, instead of being "LITE-ON LTR24102B" and "MATSHITA DVD-ROM"
it says something like "LITE-NN LCR2411B" and "MARSTITA DVD-RMM". Windows
doesn't even recognise them atall anymore.
This has only happened recently, and the computer hasn't been moved or
touched until today. Could this be a faulty IDE connector?
I've upgrade the firmware on both, but did the matshita about 9 months ago,
and the LTR about 4 weeks ago and they worked fine until recently. Maybe
(another) damaged mobo?
Took of the cover today to finally see what was goin on, disconnected a few
things to put in another cheap 40Gb HD... went to put in the HD and then
realised, with my case being small and crappy piece of sh!t I'd need to take
out the HSF for it to slide in, so I left it for another day. When I
connected everything together and turned it on the system wouldnt start up
atall. Fans wouldnt even turn. Checked the power supply and it was fine,
then realised fiddling with the floopy connector itd turn on for a split
second. I disconnected the floppy cable and now it works fine.
Arrghh wots goin on?! Either I now have a faulty floppy AND secondary IDE
cable or the mobo's scrap?
Also can someone please suggest a good (and cheap) tower case, I'm fed up
with the lack of space in my current one, not to mention the heat!
My mobo is a ECS K7VMM+ microATX board if that makes any difference? I've
also checked the 300WPSU thinking maybe it was overloaded but it makes no
difference.
Thanks in advance for the help, this is really beginning to frustrate me!
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Since: Jun 03, 2004
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 12:27 am
Post subject: Re: any ideas? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Alistair" <ally@cowan1057.(NOSPAM).freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c8lhcv$9ck$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Hey, I've a Lite-On LTR24102B CDRW, a Matshita DVD ROM and an old Maxtor 3
> Fireball 40Gb HD. Lately I've been having strange problems on the
Secondary
> channel, the LTR is master and the Matshita is slave... On startup on the
> BIOS check, it recognises and displays the HD fine, then when it gets to
the
> LTR & Mitsumi,, instead of being "LITE-ON LTR24102B" and "MATSHITA
DVD-ROM"
> it says something like "LITE-NN LCR2411B" and "MARSTITA DVD-RMM". Windows
> doesn't even recognise them atall anymore.
>
> This has only happened recently, and the computer hasn't been moved or
> touched until today. Could this be a faulty IDE connector?
>
> I've upgrade the firmware on both, but did the matshita about 9 months
ago,
> and the LTR about 4 weeks ago and they worked fine until recently. Maybe
> (another) damaged mobo?
>
> Took of the cover today to finally see what was goin on, disconnected a
few
> things to put in another cheap 40Gb HD... went to put in the HD and then
> realised, with my case being small and crappy piece of sh!t I'd need to
take
> out the HSF for it to slide in, so I left it for another day. When I
> connected everything together and turned it on the system wouldnt start up
> atall. Fans wouldnt even turn. Checked the power supply and it was fine,
> then realised fiddling with the floopy connector itd turn on for a split
> second. I disconnected the floppy cable and now it works fine.
>
> Arrghh wots goin on?! Either I now have a faulty floppy AND secondary IDE
> cable or the mobo's scrap?
> Also can someone please suggest a good (and cheap) tower case, I'm fed up
> with the lack of space in my current one, not to mention the heat!
>
> My mobo is a ECS K7VMM+ microATX board if that makes any difference? I've
> also checked the 300WPSU thinking maybe it was overloaded but it makes no
> difference.
>
> Thanks in advance for the help, this is really beginning to frustrate me!
> Alistair
>
>
>
>
I've seen this on an old P2 Compaq. Sounds like your southbridge is failing,
which means new mobo time.
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Since: May 22, 2004
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 7:26 pm
Post subject: Re: any ideas? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Yeah your right, it is the mobo.. a less-than-a-year old ECS, I wonder if
they have warranties?!
Any suggestions on a new ATX mobo? I'm also looking a new case cause my
current tower is far too small and fiddely and gets really damn warm.
Thanks
Alistair
Hamman <fuckedup.TakeThisOut@pielover.com> wrote in message
news:1085171104.713962@news01.eclipse.net.uk...
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> "Alistair" <ally@cowan1057.(NOSPAM).freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:c8lhcv$9ck$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > Hey, I've a Lite-On LTR24102B CDRW, a Matshita DVD ROM and an old Maxtor
3
> > Fireball 40Gb HD. Lately I've been having strange problems on the
> Secondary
> > channel, the LTR is master and the Matshita is slave... On startup on
the
> > BIOS check, it recognises and displays the HD fine, then when it gets to
> the
> > LTR & Mitsumi,, instead of being "LITE-ON LTR24102B" and "MATSHITA
> DVD-ROM"
> > it says something like "LITE-NN LCR2411B" and "MARSTITA DVD-RMM".
Windows
> > doesn't even recognise them atall anymore.
> >
> > This has only happened recently, and the computer hasn't been moved or
> > touched until today. Could this be a faulty IDE connector?
> >
> > I've upgrade the firmware on both, but did the matshita about 9 months
> ago,
> > and the LTR about 4 weeks ago and they worked fine until recently. Maybe
> > (another) damaged mobo?
> >
> > Took of the cover today to finally see what was goin on, disconnected a
> few
> > things to put in another cheap 40Gb HD... went to put in the HD and then
> > realised, with my case being small and crappy piece of sh!t I'd need to
> take
> > out the HSF for it to slide in, so I left it for another day. When I
> > connected everything together and turned it on the system wouldnt start
up
> > atall. Fans wouldnt even turn. Checked the power supply and it was fine,
> > then realised fiddling with the floopy connector itd turn on for a split
> > second. I disconnected the floppy cable and now it works fine.
> >
> > Arrghh wots goin on?! Either I now have a faulty floppy AND secondary
IDE
> > cable or the mobo's scrap?
> > Also can someone please suggest a good (and cheap) tower case, I'm fed
up
> > with the lack of space in my current one, not to mention the heat!
> >
> > My mobo is a ECS K7VMM+ microATX board if that makes any difference?
I've
> > also checked the 300WPSU thinking maybe it was overloaded but it makes
no
> > difference.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for the help, this is really beginning to frustrate
me!
> > Alistair
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I've seen this on an old P2 Compaq. Sounds like your southbridge is
failing,
> which means new mobo time.
>
> hamman
>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 8:45 pm
Post subject: Re: any ideas? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"A Cowan" <ally@cowan1057.(REMOVE).freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Yeah your right, it is the mobo.. a less-than-a-year old ECS, I wonder if
> they have warranties?!
>
> Any suggestions on a new ATX mobo? I'm also looking a new case cause my
> current tower is far too small and fiddely and gets really damn warm.
Looking at your headers, you're in the UK [and on freeserve, lol] so have a
look on the usual sites,
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.dabs.com" target="_blank">www.dabs.com</a> - great for cases / psu's, but thier support is terrible for
mobos, cpu's etc
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.overclockers.co.uk" target="_blank">www.overclockers.co.uk</a> - better for internal components, mobo, cpu etc.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ebuyer.co.uk" target="_blank">www.ebuyer.co.uk</a> - if youre feeling daring
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Since: Jan 03, 2004
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat May 22, 2004 10:56 pm
Post subject: Re: any ideas? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 22 May 2004 16:26:17 +0000 (UTC), "A Cowan"
<ally@cowan1057.(REMOVE).freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>Yeah your right, it is the mobo.. a less-than-a-year old ECS, I wonder if
>they have warranties?!
>
>Any suggestions on a new ATX mobo? I'm also looking a new case cause my
>current tower is far too small and fiddely and gets really damn warm.
>Thanks
>Alistair
>
Present m'board is mATX with integrated video... if you're getting the new
case anyway you don't necessarily need mATX but most boards with
integrated video are mATX... so it also depends on if you need, are using
that integrated video, and which memory type, DDR or PC133, as it appears
that the board can accept either.
Certainly ddr memory is faster for integrated video, but if you really,
really want to reuse PC133 memory then you're stuck using a board with
older SIS or Via KM266 chipset. Gigabyte, MSI, and maybe Asus make such
boards, though it might be a good time to get a DDR-memory-based board
(and the memory if needed) so you have newer feature sets and much faster
integrated video... nForce(1) or nForce2 boards
Then there's the question of SATA, USB2, etc... a lot of variables to a
motherboard replacement though I'd avoid the lowest-end boards like ECS,
PCChips, Matsonic, Biostar, Chaintech.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: any ideas? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun May 23, 2004 3:24 pm
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Thanks for the replies. I'm just using an old GeForce 2MX graphics card,
which I'm guessin means I don't need the integrated video, I will require
the integrated audio though.
I really am quite broke at the moment, being a poor student lol. I just need
to get the computer going so I was thinking of getting a decent cheap mobo
that does the job, then worry about upgrading CPU Mobo RAM &Vid card at a
later time? If I get a new mobo and want one thats gonna last it means
upgrading RAM and CPU which I can't really afford right now. I need the new
case because basically the reason my current mobo was damaged was due to the
small size, its fiddely and you can't see what your working on so components
and connectors tend to get damaged!
Thanks again
Alistair
kony <spam.RemoveThis@spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 22 May 2004 16:26:17 +0000 (UTC), "A Cowan"
> <ally@cowan1057.(REMOVE).freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Yeah your right, it is the mobo.. a less-than-a-year old ECS, I wonder if
> >they have warranties?!
> >
> >Any suggestions on a new ATX mobo? I'm also looking a new case cause my
> >current tower is far too small and fiddely and gets really damn warm.
> >Thanks
> >Alistair
> >
>
> Present m'board is mATX with integrated video... if you're getting the new
> case anyway you don't necessarily need mATX but most boards with
> integrated video are mATX... so it also depends on if you need, are using
> that integrated video, and which memory type, DDR or PC133, as it appears
> that the board can accept either.
>
> Certainly ddr memory is faster for integrated video, but if you really,
> really want to reuse PC133 memory then you're stuck using a board with
> older SIS or Via KM266 chipset. Gigabyte, MSI, and maybe Asus make such
> boards, though it might be a good time to get a DDR-memory-based board
> (and the memory if needed) so you have newer feature sets and much faster
> integrated video... nForce(1) or nForce2 boards
>
> Then there's the question of SATA, USB2, etc... a lot of variables to a
> motherboard replacement though I'd avoid the lowest-end boards like ECS,
> PCChips, Matsonic, Biostar, Chaintech.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: any ideas? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:08 am
Post subject: Re: any ideas? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Your motherboard problem could be due to a faulty electrolytic capacitor =
with a high
effective series resistance (ESR). A quick way to (sometimes) pick off a=
bad cap like
this is to visually inspect the tops of the cans looking for bulging of =
the tops of the
"cans" or even seepage of fluid from them. Also check them to see if =
they are hot to the
touch. Beyond that you need a esr meter to be more precise. We just =
fixed a extremely
intermittent ECS-K7S5A board that was having IDE channel 0 errors by =
replacing one of
these defective caps. FYI.=20
On Fri, 21 May 2004 19:22:22 +0100, "Alistair" =
<ally@cowan1057.(NOSPAM).freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:
>Hey, I've a Lite-On LTR24102B CDRW, a Matshita DVD ROM and an old Maxtor=
3
>Fireball 40Gb HD. Lately I've been having strange problems on the =
Secondary
>channel, the LTR is master and the Matshita is slave... On startup on =
the
>BIOS check, it recognises and displays the HD fine, then when it gets to=
the
>LTR & Mitsumi,, instead of being "LITE-ON LTR24102B" and "MATSHITA =
DVD-ROM"
>it says something like "LITE-NN LCR2411B" and "MARSTITA DVD-RMM". =
Windows
>doesn't even recognise them atall anymore.
>
>This has only happened recently, and the computer hasn't been moved or
>touched until today. Could this be a faulty IDE connector?
>
>I've upgrade the firmware on both, but did the matshita about 9 months =
ago,
>and the LTR about 4 weeks ago and they worked fine until recently. Maybe
>(another) damaged mobo?
>
>Took of the cover today to finally see what was goin on, disconnected a =
few
>things to put in another cheap 40Gb HD... went to put in the HD and then
>realised, with my case being small and crappy piece of sh!t I'd need to =
take
>out the HSF for it to slide in, so I left it for another day. When I
>connected everything together and turned it on the system wouldnt start =
up
>atall. Fans wouldnt even turn. Checked the power supply and it was fine,
>then realised fiddling with the floopy connector itd turn on for a split
>second. I disconnected the floppy cable and now it works fine.
>
>Arrghh wots goin on?! Either I now have a faulty floppy AND secondary =
IDE
>cable or the mobo's scrap?
>Also can someone please suggest a good (and cheap) tower case, I'm fed =
up
>with the lack of space in my current one, not to mention the heat!
>
>My mobo is a ECS K7VMM+ microATX board if that makes any difference? =
I've
>also checked the 300WPSU thinking maybe it was overloaded but it makes =
no
>difference.
>
>Thanks in advance for the help, this is really beginning to frustrate =
me!
>Alistair
>
>
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