intel prescott

"Adam Webb" <adam.DeleteThis@ajmysecondname.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Dreaming of SuperPrescott (4.0Ghz+)
 > 90nm proccess
 > 16k L1 cache
 > 1mb L2 cache
 > 2mb L3 cache

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 > droool hehehe

Wonder what the pricing would be.
The multi-MB Xeon's were never exactly cheap.
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  > > droool hehehe
 >
 > Wonder what the pricing would be.
 > The multi-MB Xeon's were never exactly cheap.

The P4 "Extreme Edition" is a real marketing curiosity. It exists only so
Intel can lay claim to having the "Fastest Desktop Processor On The Planet"
(tm), yet its existence causes Intel a huge marketing headache with the Xeon
line.

The 3.2GHz P4EE, while considerably more expensive than the "normal" 512K L2
Northwood P4 @ 3.2GHz, is currently something like a third of the price of
the same CPU when sold in its proper Xeon/Socket 603 guise.

While it's possible that Intel are actually selling the P4EE at a loss on
current pricing, I'd imagine that anyone who's bought a big-cache/multiproc
Xeon server over the last few months would be feeling pretty pissed-off
right now, while anyone considering buying such a server would be wondering
why they should bother paying the premium...
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does the xeon operate in 800 fsb? I have only seen (cursory look) 400 and
533 mhz

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 > "Dorothy Bradbury" <dorothy.bradbury.DeleteThis@ntlworld.com> wrote in message...
   > > > droool hehehe
  > >
  > > Wonder what the pricing would be.
  > > The multi-MB Xeon's were never exactly cheap.
 >
 > The P4 "Extreme Edition" is a real marketing curiosity. It exists only so
 > Intel can lay claim to having the "Fastest Desktop Processor On The
Planet"
 > (tm), yet its existence causes Intel a huge marketing headache with the
Xeon
 > line.
 >
 > The 3.2GHz P4EE, while considerably more expensive than the "normal" 512K
L2
 > Northwood P4 @ 3.2GHz, is currently something like a third of the price of
 > the same CPU when sold in its proper Xeon/Socket 603 guise.
 >
 > While it's possible that Intel are actually selling the P4EE at a loss on
 > current pricing, I'd imagine that anyone who's bought a
big-cache/multiproc
 > Xeon server over the last few months would be feeling pretty pissed-off
 > right now, while anyone considering buying such a server would be
wondering
 > why they should bother paying the premium...
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 > The P4 "Extreme Edition" is a real marketing curiosity. It exists only so
 > Intel can lay claim to having the "Fastest Desktop Processor On The Planet"
 > (tm), yet its existence causes Intel a huge marketing headache with the Xeon
 > line.

A claim they need with Opteron, Dual-G5 & Athlon64 diluting perception.

 > The 3.2GHz P4EE, while considerably more expensive than the "normal" 512K L2
 > Northwood P4 @ 3.2GHz, is currently something like a third of the price of
 > the same CPU when sold in its proper Xeon/Socket 603 guise.

That's what I was wondering - anything >512KB cache from Intel is always
"it's server, it's dbase server, it's multi-processor, big 10k's/system = $$$$".

Perhaps Intel have something planned for the Xeon line?
A new chipset with new transport would be an idea I suppose. The P4EE then
lacks the transport so conveniently migrates people back to the Xeon line?

It is getting interesting - from Athlon64 to Opteron (quite cheap) to now even
dual Xeon motherboards appearing at 70% less than old Intel offerings. The
Dual Xeon board from Asus is ~150$/130ukp, whilst no onboard graphics
it does bring Xeon down into consumer pricing on boards at least.

Intel has much providing an entry against AMD substitution, altho in which
case they need to up the cache of P4-Celeron since it is still very lacking.
Typing on a P4Celeron-2.2 laptop in XP 256MB, my PII-366 laptop in
NT4 128MB was sharper & quicker - most definately not slower anyway.

Amusing how many Ghz it takes to run a word-processor these days ))))
Seems the jokes about Cray YMP & Word 6 weren't so far off afterall.
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 > does the xeon operate in 800 fsb? I have only seen (cursory look) 400 and
 > 533 mhz
 >
Xeon only uses 533fsb... at least for now

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Adam Webb wrote:
  >>does the xeon operate in 800 fsb? I have only seen (cursory look) 400 and
  >>533 mhz
  >>
 >
 > Xeon only uses 533fsb... at least for now
 >

And 400

Ahhh? hm?
Pentium 4 Prescott
90Nm
16K L1
1 Mb L2
2 Mb L3
Further support hyper threading.
200x4=the 800 Fsb of it's bus speed.
Speed up to 5.Something GHz.
Then sometime after that, the Teja will come out.
Intel has a full Programing manual for it already. The prescott that is.
The price range is supposed to be somewhat low, that is for the 3.2 Chip.
I think I was reading somewhere around 430$ or 450$ when the 3.2's come out.
The 3.4's somewhere around 600$
The Teja's, when they come out, are supposed to have Tri-Gate Tech.
If I'm right about this, the Prescott will beat almost all of AMD's CPU's
Intel has been working on the Prescott since sometime in 1/?/02 Heh?
That means that even with the first line of P4's, Intel way already
working on something else, heh?
goto geek.com lots of old reading to be found there.
Try also <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://www.yahoo.com</a> and search for it
Or
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.intel.com" target="_blank">http://www.intel.com</a> You don't have to search very far to find lots of
info on the Prescott.





Question that might be asked.
I Have no idea if Intel had planed 64Bit Tech for their new CPU's, they
might have, and they might not have.
After searching, witch you people can do to too. I found a lot on this
new CPU, + the main problem they had with it is heat.

Other Spech's? Goto <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.intel.com" target="_blank">http://www.intel.com</a> and search for it.
Trust me, they are there.

katt



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Prescott will not have L3 cache.... only the server version (and the EE if
they make one)

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"katt33" <raichu033 RemoveThis @netscape.net> wrote in message
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 >
 > Adam Webb wrote:
   > >>does the xeon operate in 800 fsb? I have only seen (cursory look) 400
and
   > >>533 mhz
   > >>
  > >
  > > Xeon only uses 533fsb... at least for now
  > >
 >
 > And 400
 >
 > Ahhh? hm?
 > Pentium 4 Prescott
 > 90Nm
 > 16K L1
 > 1 Mb L2
 > 2 Mb L3
 > Further support hyper threading.
 > 200x4=the 800 Fsb of it's bus speed.
 > Speed up to 5.Something GHz.
 > Then sometime after that, the Teja will come out.
 > Intel has a full Programing manual for it already. The prescott that is.
 > The price range is supposed to be somewhat low, that is for the 3.2 Chip.
 > I think I was reading somewhere around 430$ or 450$ when the 3.2's come
out.
 > The 3.4's somewhere around 600$
 > The Teja's, when they come out, are supposed to have Tri-Gate Tech.
 > If I'm right about this, the Prescott will beat almost all of AMD's CPU's
 > Intel has been working on the Prescott since sometime in 1/?/02 Heh?
 > That means that even with the first line of P4's, Intel way already
 > working on something else, heh?
 > goto geek.com lots of old reading to be found there.
 > Try also <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://www.yahoo.com</a> and search for it
 > Or
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.intel.com" target="_blank">http://www.intel.com</a> You don't have to search very far to find lots of
 > info on the Prescott.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > Question that might be asked.
 > I Have no idea if Intel had planed 64Bit Tech for their new CPU's, they
 > might have, and they might not have.
 > After searching, witch you people can do to too. I found a lot on this
 > new CPU, + the main problem they had with it is heat.
 >
 > Other Spech's? Goto <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.intel.com" target="_blank">http://www.intel.com</a> and search for it.
 > Trust me, they are there.
 >
 > katt
 >
 >
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Adam Webb wrote:
 > Prescott will not have L3 cache.... only the server version (and the EE if
 > they make one)
 >
Oops, looks like your right.

And L2 is only 512K
I'm guessing that the better chip will come out later.
The 478 Pin Version will have much of the same stuff
as most the P4's already have, with a few new instructions added.
I e-mailed Intel, but they didn't tell me anything.
I found more out for my self, and on their own web-pages, then they
would tell me in email. @
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://download.intel.com/design/chipsets/designex/25357601.pdf" target="_blank">ftp://download.intel.com/design/chipsets/designex/25357601.pdf</a>


The other cpu will be 775 pin, with something that I read in either
MaxPc or C.P.U. something plugs into the cpu socket first, then the CPU
just snaps in tight. Making upgrading a snap.
I don't remember where on the net I saw it, but I saw a pic of the
775Pin Prescott. To me it don't look like some sort of snap tight
system, maybe the Teja, if I'm spelling that right.
They will probably be doing a server chip of some kind too.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.intel.com/pressroom" target="_blank">http://www.intel.com/pressroom</a> is the only thing that intel has sent to
me. I'm thinking it's going to look something like AMD before they
released their 64Bit line, info seemed to be everywhere on the chip, but
where is the chip? Then without much word, AMD put the chips on the market.
I guess us, the few of us anyway, that won't use anything but Intel,
will just have to wait, Da** it.
For the AMD users, the Athlon 64 Fx seems to have the speed for now.
katt



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 > Oops, looks like your right.
 >
 > And L2 is only 512K
 > I'm guessing that the better chip will come out later.
 > The 478 Pin Version will have much of the same stuff
 > as most the P4's already have, with a few new instructions added.
 > I e-mailed Intel, but they didn't tell me anything.
 > I found more out for my self, and on their own web-pages, then they
 > would tell me in email. @
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://download.intel.com/design/chipsets/designex/25357601.pdf</font" target="_blank">ftp://download.intel.com/design/chipsets/designex/25357601.pdf</font</a>>
 >
 >


i think prescotts may have 1mb L2...not totaly sure. I dont think even intel
are.....

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"Adam Webb" <adam RemoveThis @ajmysecondname.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
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  > > Oops, looks like your right.
  > >
  > > And L2 is only 512K
  > > I'm guessing that the better chip will come out later.
  > > The 478 Pin Version will have much of the same stuff
  > > as most the P4's already have, with a few new instructions added.
  > > I e-mailed Intel, but they didn't tell me anything.
  > > I found more out for my self, and on their own web-pages, then they
  > > would tell me in email. @
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://download.intel.com/design/chipsets/designex/25357601.pdf</font" target="_blank">ftp://download.intel.com/design/chipsets/designex/25357601.pdf</font</a>>
  > >
  > >
 >
 >
 > i think prescotts may have 1mb L2...not totaly sure. I dont think even
intel
 > are.....

I'm katt33
Darned newsfeeds
DA** IT INTEL, Hurry it up already.
We can all find out what's going on tomorrow
1/8/04 the tech show in vegas.
I don't remember how to get there, but I do know you can find it by going
to.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.intel.com/pressroom/" target="_blank">http://www.intel.com/pressroom/</a>
And I'm sure you won't need any help finding it.
If anyone does have a problem finding it, learn how to surf the web, darn
it.
denny / katt33



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