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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:51 pm
Post subject: low-profile AGP card
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I have an older Dell SFF machine that I am going to use to drive my TV
through S-video. I am looking for the best quality S-Video output in an AGP
low-profile card. I find a few 6200 models, which seem like they would be a
big improvement over the current MX400.
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 9:51 pm
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Tom Scales wrote:
> I have an older Dell SFF machine that I am going to use to drive my TV
> through S-video. I am looking for the best quality S-Video output in an AGP
> low-profile card. I find a few 6200 models, which seem like they would be a
> big improvement over the current MX400.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
>
>
They are a big improvement. The 6200's should use the same integrated
encoder found on my 6600GT, which is about as good as you'll get from an
on-card solution. The last time I had utilized TV-out was years back on
an old GF3 TI200 and GF2 Ultra. Those were ok for the time, but still
"blurry" at best.
I'm really impressed with the new encoders though. When I first used
s-video on the 6600, I was shocked that text was legible without any
tweaking. Also there are more controls available for resizing the
picture, centering, and the variable flicker filter (standard stuff
now). Even on an old 31" Toshiba, an 800x600 desktop is easily
distinguishable and 640x480 looks very crisp.
I'm not sure if the brand matters or not, but I've found XFX and Leadtek
have really good 2d components. Also, I hope the low profile 6200's
have the same encoder chip and don't substitute an older Philips or
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:07 pm
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On Sun, 21 May 2006 19:10:04 -0500, deimos wrote:
> I'm not sure if the brand matters or not, but I've found XFX and Leadtek
> have really good 2d components. Also, I hope the low profile 6200's
> have the same encoder chip and don't substitute an older Philips or
> Conexant to save space.
I have the XFX 6200 and, while I'm not sure what brand of chip is on it, I
just know it's pretty huge by the size of the heatsink.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:32 am
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"Patty" <patty.RemoveThis@iainttellin.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 May 2006 19:10:04 -0500, deimos wrote:
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>> I'm not sure if the brand matters or not, but I've found XFX and Leadtek
>> have really good 2d components. Also, I hope the low profile 6200's
>> have the same encoder chip and don't substitute an older Philips or
>> Conexant to save space.
>
> I have the XFX 6200 and, while I'm not sure what brand of chip is on it, I
> just know it's pretty huge by the size of the heatsink.
>
> Patty
Yes, XFX doesn't make a low profile, nor does Leadtek. Looks like Gigabyte
is my best bet.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 9:46 am
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 10:20:12 GMT, Tom Scales wrote:
> I'll be darned. Missed that.
>
> How does the end bracket work? It looks full height. I need that Lowprofile
> too. Does part of it come off?
>
> Tom
I didn't look very closely at the end bracket, I don't think it broke
apart, but I can't say for sure. However, I believe it's just standard
height.
One of my systems is an older Compaq SFF machine, and it uses the standard
end bracket. In my system, the PCI cards sit sideways on a riser board.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 9:59 am
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On Wed, 24 May 2006 10:20:12 GMT, Tom Scales wrote:
> I'll be darned. Missed that.
>
> How does the end bracket work? It looks full height. I need that Lowprofile
> too. Does part of it come off?
>
> Tom
Which card are you looking at at Gigabyte? All the 6200s there have
standard regular height end brackets. A few cards are low profile, but the
brackets are standard full height. I didn't think you could buy anything
with a shorter end bracket unless you bought from the manufacturer of your
system (very specialized parts).
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 3:39 pm
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"Patty" <patty.DeleteThis@iainttellin.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 24 May 2006 10:20:12 GMT, Tom Scales wrote:
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>> I'll be darned. Missed that.
>>
>> How does the end bracket work? It looks full height. I need that
>> Lowprofile
>> too. Does part of it come off?
>>
>> Tom
>
> Which card are you looking at at Gigabyte? All the 6200s there have
> standard regular height end brackets. A few cards are low profile, but
> the
> brackets are standard full height. I didn't think you could buy anything
> with a shorter end bracket unless you bought from the manufacturer of your
> system (very specialized parts).
>
> Patty
Yes, I agree. I'm starting to think I need to go down another path and swap
systems around the house so I can just use a regular card.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:13 pm
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Tom Scales <tjscales.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Patty" <patty.TakeThisOut@iainttellin.com> wrote in message
> news:73blqgxrqzzc.n13cp5raj1ui$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> it's the XFX GeForce 6200 256MB DDR2 TV DVI (PV-T44A-WAN) about halfway
>> down the page. It even says: "Low Profile, Book PC Compatible" right on
>> the box.
> I'll be darned. Missed that.
> How does the end bracket work? It looks full height. I need that
> Lowprofile too. Does part of it come off?
The analog port is attached via a ribbon cable, so presumably the card
comes with a half-height bracket that you can attach instead. But you
should make sure that's the case before buying it.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 8:32 pm
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On 24 May 2006 20:13:02 GMT, ammonton.DeleteThis@cc.full.stop.helsinki.fi wrote:
> Tom Scales <tjscales.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Patty" <patty.DeleteThis@iainttellin.com> wrote in message
>> news:73blqgxrqzzc.n13cp5raj1ui$.dlg@40tude.net...
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>>> it's the XFX GeForce 6200 256MB DDR2 TV DVI (PV-T44A-WAN) about halfway
>>> down the page. It even says: "Low Profile, Book PC Compatible" right on
>>> the box.
>> I'll be darned. Missed that.
>> How does the end bracket work? It looks full height. I need that
>> Lowprofile too. Does part of it come off?
>
> The analog port is attached via a ribbon cable, so presumably the card
> comes with a half-height bracket that you can attach instead. But you
> should make sure that's the case before buying it.
>
> -a
Mine did not come with an additional bracket.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 2:46 am
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"Patty" <patty RemoveThis @iainttellin.com> wrote in message
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> There ya go, if you can purchase it from this vendor, they include a low
> profile bracket. But I only paid $54 for my card from TigerDirect, this
> one is 87.95. Guess they charge a lot extra for those brackets.
>
> Patty
Except their low-profile bracket blocks the s-video out!
I give  I'll use one of my full-height capable machines.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:33 am
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 02:46:19 GMT, Tom Scales wrote:
> "Patty" <patty.TakeThisOut@iainttellin.com> wrote in message
> news:gh1yutpnvx3r.ji4y286ua7n0$.dlg@40tude.net...
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>> There ya go, if you can purchase it from this vendor, they include a low
>> profile bracket. But I only paid $54 for my card from TigerDirect, this
>> one is 87.95. Guess they charge a lot extra for those brackets.
>>
>> Patty
>
> Except their low-profile bracket blocks the s-video out!
>
> I give I'll use one of my full-height capable machines.
>
> Tom
From looking at the info, I believe the optional VGA bracket (for an
additional $5) does block the S-video, however the DVI/TV one that comes
with the card does not.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:42 am
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In article <192ozyag680zo.1un7gxnri6qzd.dlg DeleteThis @40tude.net>,
patty DeleteThis @iainttellin.com says...
> On Thu, 25 May 2006 02:46:19 GMT, Tom Scales wrote:
>
> > "Patty" <patty DeleteThis @iainttellin.com> wrote in message
> > news:gh1yutpnvx3r.ji4y286ua7n0$.dlg@40tude.net...
> >
> >> There ya go, if you can purchase it from this vendor, they include a low
> >> profile bracket. But I only paid $54 for my card from TigerDirect, this
> >> one is 87.95. Guess they charge a lot extra for those brackets.
> >>
> >> Patty
> >
> > Except their low-profile bracket blocks the s-video out!
> >
> > I give I'll use one of my full-height capable machines.
> >
> > Tom
>
> From looking at the info, I believe the optional VGA bracket (for an
> additional $5) does block the S-video,
Sounds like a job for a drill motor and the appropriately sized bit.
> however the DVI/TV one that comes
> with the card does not.
>
> Patty
>
Bill
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:50 pm
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 11:42:47 -0700, Bill wrote:
> In article <192ozyag680zo.1un7gxnri6qzd.dlg.DeleteThis@40tude.net>,
> patty.DeleteThis@iainttellin.com says...
>> On Thu, 25 May 2006 02:46:19 GMT, Tom Scales wrote:
>>
>>> "Patty" <patty.DeleteThis@iainttellin.com> wrote in message
>>> news:gh1yutpnvx3r.ji4y286ua7n0$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>
>>>> There ya go, if you can purchase it from this vendor, they include a low
>>>> profile bracket. But I only paid $54 for my card from TigerDirect, this
>>>> one is 87.95. Guess they charge a lot extra for those brackets.
>>>>
>>>> Patty
>>>
>>> Except their low-profile bracket blocks the s-video out!
>>>
>>> I give I'll use one of my full-height capable machines.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>
>> From looking at the info, I believe the optional VGA bracket (for an
>> additional $5) does block the S-video,
>
> Sounds like a job for a drill motor and the appropriately sized bit.
>
>
>
>> however the DVI/TV one that comes
>> with the card does not.
>>
>> Patty
>>
>
> Bill
Well, you know, as I look closer at the picture and the specs, I see that
the DVI/TV bracket does have the S-video opening on it and that appears to
come standard with the card. If you need the VGA bracket, you'd connect
the VGA cable port to it and put it in a separate slot opening on the back
of your computer (two slot openings would be used by the video). If you
don't need the VGA connector, you'd (I am guessing) disconnect the VGA
cable from the card and just use the DVI/TV bracket only which DOES give
you the TV out connector.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 9:22 pm
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In article <17s7v05o4zrr.sw7vw7p7ub9e$.dlg@40tude.net>,
patty RemoveThis @iainttellin.com says...
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<snip>
>
> Well, you know, as I look closer at the picture and the specs, I see that
> the DVI/TV bracket does have the S-video opening on it and that appears to
> come standard with the card. If you need the VGA bracket, you'd connect
> the VGA cable port to it and put it in a separate slot opening on the back
> of your computer (two slot openings would be used by the video). If you
> don't need the VGA connector, you'd (I am guessing) disconnect the VGA
> cable from the card and just use the DVI/TV bracket only which DOES give
> you the TV out connector.
>
> Patty
>
Or you could do that. 
Bill
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 2:39 am
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"Patty" <patty.RemoveThis@iainttellin.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 25 May 2006 11:42:47 -0700, Bill wrote:
>
>> In article <192ozyag680zo.1un7gxnri6qzd.dlg.RemoveThis@40tude.net>,
>> patty.RemoveThis@iainttellin.com says...
>>> On Thu, 25 May 2006 02:46:19 GMT, Tom Scales wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Patty" <patty.RemoveThis@iainttellin.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:gh1yutpnvx3r.ji4y286ua7n0$.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>>
>>>>> There ya go, if you can purchase it from this vendor, they include a
>>>>> low
>>>>> profile bracket. But I only paid $54 for my card from TigerDirect,
>>>>> this
>>>>> one is 87.95. Guess they charge a lot extra for those brackets.
>>>>>
>>>>> Patty
>>>>
>>>> Except their low-profile bracket blocks the s-video out!
>>>>
>>>> I give I'll use one of my full-height capable machines.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>
>>> From looking at the info, I believe the optional VGA bracket (for an
>>> additional $5) does block the S-video,
>>
>> Sounds like a job for a drill motor and the appropriately sized bit.
>>
>>
>>
>>> however the DVI/TV one that comes
>>> with the card does not.
>>>
>>> Patty
>>>
>>
>> Bill
>
> Well, you know, as I look closer at the picture and the specs, I see that
> the DVI/TV bracket does have the S-video opening on it and that appears to
> come standard with the card. If you need the VGA bracket, you'd connect
> the VGA cable port to it and put it in a separate slot opening on the back
> of your computer (two slot openings would be used by the video). If you
> don't need the VGA connector, you'd (I am guessing) disconnect the VGA
> cable from the card and just use the DVI/TV bracket only which DOES give
> you the TV out connector.
>
> Patty
That would probably work, at least for now. I don't have another slot, but
I doubt if all three work at the same time anyway.
Thanks for all your help.
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