WTB: metal mouse pad for Mouse Systems serial optical mouse

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:25:31 +0800, "Bronney Hui"
<bronney RemoveThis @netvigator.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:

 >Dude,
 >
 >Try this.
 >
 >http://www.pc-extras.com/prods/adm2at.html

That only works if the mouse understands both protocols, and if the
serial port can provide enough power on its signal pins.

 >Ask around at your local computer shop if they carry any.
 >
 >"Franc Zabkar" <fzabkar RemoveThis @optussnet.com.au> ???
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  >> I know it's an odd request, but I need to replace a worn out mouse pad
  >> for my Mouse Systems serial optical mouse, model M411. It's the shiny
  >> metal one with red and blue stripes. Alternatively, does anyone know
  >> where I can buy a serial optical mouse, new or used?
  >>
  >> I cannot use a USB or PS/2 mouse because I'm connecting it via a KVM
  >> switchbox which has DB9 connectors only. Furthermore, one of the PCs
  >> is an old 486 with no PS/2 or USB interface. I use this machine to
  >> support my device programmer.
  >>
  >>
  >> - Franc Zabkar
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  >> Please remove one 's' from my address when replying by email.
 >


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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:18:01 +1000, Franc Zabkar
<fzabkar RemoveThis @optussnet.com.au> wrote:

 >On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:25:31 +0800, "Bronney Hui"
 ><bronney RemoveThis @netvigator.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:
 >
  >>Dude,
  >>
  >>Try this.
  >>
  >>http://www.pc-extras.com/prods/adm2at.html
 >
 >That only works if the mouse understands both protocols, and if the
 >serial port can provide enough power on its signal pins.
 >

Never seen a serial optical mouse, it might be easier to
just swap the motherboard if you must have optical.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: WTB: metal mouse pad for Mouse Systems serial optical mouse 

"kony" <spam.RemoveThis@spam.com> ??? news:62jtn09l2r9kd4mnjuan086lktnh1sits3@4ax.com
???...
 > On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:18:01 +1000, Franc Zabkar
 >
 > Never seen a serial optical mouse, it might be easier to
 > just swap the motherboard if you must have optical.

Kony,

We used to use them in computer science class when I was in grade 10 hehe,
long long time ago. Those 3 buttons thing I think it's from wacom. And
they'd break if you hold up the mouse, point the led up close to the
monitor. I broke 3 just to make sure, kinda curious as to why it would.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: WTB: metal mouse pad for Mouse Systems serial optical mouse 

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:15:19 GMT, kony <spam RemoveThis @spam.com> wrote:

 >Never seen a serial optical mouse, it might be easier to
 >just swap the motherboard if you must have optical.

I used to have one when I worked for Unisys. It was made by Unisys, and ran on a
metal plate with a criss cross pattern.

Black lines one way, blue the other (IIRC)

That was on a 286.

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Yes yes that's the pad.! I'm quite sure the brand I used started with a W
though.

"Christopher Pollard" <rubbish RemoveThis @cginternet.net> ???
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 > On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:15:19 GMT, kony <spam RemoveThis @spam.com> wrote:
 >
  > >Never seen a serial optical mouse, it might be easier to
  > >just swap the motherboard if you must have optical.
 >
 > I used to have one when I worked for Unisys. It was made by Unisys, and
ran on a
 > metal plate with a criss cross pattern.
 >
 > Black lines one way, blue the other (IIRC)
 >
 > That was on a 286.
 >
 > --
 > Chris Pollard
 >
 >
 > CG Internet café, Tagum City, Philippines
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 >> Stay informed about: WTB: metal mouse pad for Mouse Systems serial optical mouse 

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:17:45 +0800, "Bronney Hui"
<bronney.TakeThisOut@netvigator.com> wrote:

 >"kony" <spam.TakeThisOut@spam.com> ??? news:62jtn09l2r9kd4mnjuan086lktnh1sits3@4ax.com
 >???...
  >> On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:18:01 +1000, Franc Zabkar
  >>
  >> Never seen a serial optical mouse, it might be easier to
  >> just swap the motherboard if you must have optical.
 >
 >Kony,
 >
 >We used to use them in computer science class when I was in grade 10 hehe,
 >long long time ago. Those 3 buttons thing I think it's from wacom. And
 >they'd break if you hold up the mouse, point the led up close to the
 >monitor. I broke 3 just to make sure, kinda curious as to why it would.
 >
 >

Ok, I should've wrote that I was thinking of newer,
near-current generation mice that don't need special pads...
since the problem was lack of pad to begin with.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: WTB: metal mouse pad for Mouse Systems serial optical mouse 

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:15:19 GMT, kony <spam.TakeThisOut@spam.com> put finger to
keyboard and composed:

 >On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 06:18:01 +1000, Franc Zabkar
 ><fzabkar.TakeThisOut@optussnet.com.au> wrote:
 >
  >>On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:25:31 +0800, "Bronney Hui"
  >><bronney.TakeThisOut@netvigator.com> put finger to keyboard and composed:
  >>
   >>>Dude,
   >>>
   >>>Try this.
   >>>
   >>>http://www.pc-extras.com/prods/adm2at.html
  >>
  >>That only works if the mouse understands both protocols, and if the
  >>serial port can provide enough power on its signal pins.
  >>
 >
 >Never seen a serial optical mouse, it might be easier to
 >just swap the motherboard if you must have optical.

The device programmer's proprietary interface card doesn't work
reliably with anything faster than a 486. I'm also using 4 x 16MB
30-pin parity SIMMs.

The Mouse Systems serial optical mice were often supplied with high
end workstations, eg Sun Sparcstation. Mine is a Mouse Systems PC
Mouse II which was obviously intended for PC use. I also have a Quick
serial optical mouse, but unfortunately it uses an incompatible pad,
and its resolution is much lower. In later years Artec made an optical
serial mouse for PCs. I regret not buying one - it would have cost me
about $25.

BTW, the horizontal grid lines on the metal pad are black, not red as
I originally stated.


- Franc Zabkar
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 12:08:42 +0800, "Bronney Hui" <bronney.DeleteThis@netvigator.com>
wrote:

 >Yes yes that's the pad.! I'm quite sure the brand I used started with a W
 >though.

Well, it might have been badged differently. The mouse was squarish, with three
long buttons. None of this is of any relevance however, as I no longer have
it... It was a long time ago, and it was company property anyway...

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