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Marong

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:37 pm
Post subject: Ok to put HDD in airplane hold?
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Is it ok to check in a HDD into an airplane hold?

If the baggage handlers don't kill the drive might there be any problem with
the reduced air pressure? if so then do i need to allow time after landing
before I use it?equalisation

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J. Clarke

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 2:37 pm
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Marong wrote:

 > Is it ok to check in a HDD into an airplane hold?
 >
 > If the baggage handlers don't kill the drive might there be any problem
 > with
 > the reduced air pressure? if so then do i need to allow time after
 > landing before I use it?equalisation

Pressure shouldn't be an issue, but temperature might if it's a long flight
and an unheated hold. If the drive's cold enough that you think that
there's a possibility that condensation may have formed on parts that
aren't readily visible then let it warm up overnight.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:13 pm
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To avoid condensation forming, put the drive in a sealed Tupperware bowl or
something like that before shipping, let the drive warm back up to room temp
before breaking seal on Tupperware.

I just thought about this again. I would think that if you packaged it like
the manufacturer does, you should be ok, I mean they ship them by plane too
right?

--Dan

"J. Clarke" <jclarke DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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 > Marong wrote:
 >
  > > Is it ok to check in a HDD into an airplane hold?
  > >
  > > If the baggage handlers don't kill the drive might there be any problem
  > > with
  > > the reduced air pressure? if so then do i need to allow time after
  > > landing before I use it?equalisation
 >
 > Pressure shouldn't be an issue, but temperature might if it's a long
flight
 > and an unheated hold. If the drive's cold enough that you think that
 > there's a possibility that condensation may have formed on parts that
 > aren't readily visible then let it warm up overnight.
 >
 > --
 > --John
 > Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
 > (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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J. Clarke

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 8:13 pm
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dg wrote:

 > To avoid condensation forming, put the drive in a sealed Tupperware bowl
 > or something like that before shipping, let the drive warm back up to room
 > temp before breaking seal on Tupperware.

Doesn't really alter the issue--you still have to let the drive warm up.

 > I just thought about this again. I would think that if you packaged it
 > like the manufacturer does, you should be ok, I mean they ship them by
 > plane too right?

They seal them in very tight packages with a dessicant and generally they
don't get installed immediately after being unloaded from the plane.

But they'd typically only ship by air on single unit replacements--otherwise
they'd go in bulk by surface freight.

 >
 > --Dan
 >
 > "J. Clarke" <jclarke RemoveThis @nospam.invalid> wrote in message
 > news:ca4bgq01ham@news1.newsguy.com...
  >> Marong wrote:
  >>
   >> > Is it ok to check in a HDD into an airplane hold?
   >> >
   >> > If the baggage handlers don't kill the drive might there be any problem
   >> > with
   >> > the reduced air pressure? if so then do i need to allow time after
   >> > landing before I use it?equalisation
  >>
  >> Pressure shouldn't be an issue, but temperature might if it's a long
 > flight
  >> and an unheated hold. If the drive's cold enough that you think that
  >> there's a possibility that condensation may have formed on parts that
  >> aren't readily visible then let it warm up overnight.
  >>
  >> --
  >> --John
  >> Reply to jclarke at ae tee tee global dot net
  >> (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

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Bob Thompson

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 4:15 pm
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 11:37:13 GMT, "Marong" <xxxx RemoveThis @xxxx.xxxx> wrote:

 >Is it ok to check in a HDD into an airplane hold?
 >
 >If the baggage handlers don't kill the drive might there be any problem with
 >the reduced air pressure? if so then do i need to allow time after landing
 >before I use it?equalisation
 >

Modern drives have non-operating environmental specs in the vicinity
of:

Temp: down to -40 degrees F
Altitude up to 40,000 feet

This is well beyond what you should encounter in a normal aircraft
baggage compartment.

By the time you drive from airport to home/office/whatever,
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 12:11 am
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"J. Clarke" <jclarke.DeleteThis@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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 > dg wrote:
 >
  > > To avoid condensation forming, put the drive in a sealed Tupperware bowl
  > > or something like that before shipping, let the drive warm back up to
room
  > > temp before breaking seal on Tupperware.
 >
 > Doesn't really alter the issue--you still have to let the drive warm up.

It makes a huge difference. Sure you have to let the drive warm up, but in
one case you end up with a warm and wet drive. In the other you have a warm
drive that is dry. If you take a cold drive out of the freezer and set it
on your kitchen contertop, walk away 15 minutes and come back, it will have
condensation formed on it. If you leave the drive in a sealed bowl until it
is warm again, the moisture from the outside air never gets a chance to
collect on the drive. Ideally the drive would be in the sealed bowl prior
to being frozen. I have frozen and thawed many items, this is the best way
to avoid something getting soggy-I am sure.

--Dan<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:44 pm
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HDD are shipped via FedEx, Airborne, and UPS all the time.
Those, for any distance, go on airplanes.

Marong wrote:
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 > Is it ok to check in a HDD into an airplane hold?
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Eric Gisin1

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:34 pm
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The nitrogen in HDDs will explode if subjected to low temperatures and
pressures!!!!!!!!! This crashes more airplains than drug-crazed military
pilots every year!!!!!!!!!

"Marong" <xxxx.TakeThisOut@xxxx.xxxx> wrote in message
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 > Is it ok to check in a HDD into an airplane hold?
 >
 > If the baggage handlers don't kill the drive might there be any problem with
 > the reduced air pressure? if so then do i need to allow time after landing
 > before I use it?equalisation
 >
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:40 am
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I've lost the start of this message but can you not take it as hand luggage?
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