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Smurfinaus

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:37 pm
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Hi All,
I suspect its time for me to get a new HD. The IBM 40Gb ive had last two
years has been great but some bad sectors have been cropping up so im
looking for a new drive. Previously i had Fujitsu 6.4 and 4.3 and both
worked fine. Havent kept up with drive technology lately (nor CPU or
Motherboards - gee i need new ones soon too..) so may i ask, in peoples
experience what brand drives are reliable ?. Ive heard bad things about
certain IBM ones, but Seagates are good?.
thanks in advance for any advice
Nijuu.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:37 pm
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Smurfinaus wrote:

 > Hi All,
 > I suspect its time for me to get a new HD. The IBM 40Gb ive had last two
 > years has been great but some bad sectors have been cropping up so im
 > looking for a new drive. Previously i had Fujitsu 6.4 and 4.3 and both
 > worked fine. Havent kept up with drive technology lately (nor CPU or
 > Motherboards - gee i need new ones soon too..) so may i ask, in peoples
 > experience what brand drives are reliable ?. Ive heard bad things about
 > certain IBM ones, but Seagates are good?.
 > thanks in advance for any advice


I like Seagate. I don't like Maxtor.
Just a personal opinion, and that's all.


-WD<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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Rod Speed

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:18 pm
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Smurfinaus <smurfinaus DeleteThis @NOSPAM.com> wrote in message news:Xns94447B67CC42smurfinausinternodeo@203.16.214.244...

 > I suspect its time for me to get a new HD. The IBM 40Gb ive had
 > last two years has been great but some bad sectors have been
 > cropping up so im looking for a new drive. Previously i had Fujitsu
 > 6.4 and 4.3 and both worked fine. Havent kept up with drive technology
 > lately (nor CPU or Motherboards - gee i need new ones soon too..)

I like Intel cpus and Asus motherboards with Intel chipsets myself.

 > so may i ask, in peoples experience what brand drives are
 > reliable ?. Ive heard bad things about certain IBM ones,

And the Fujitsu MPG drives too. Not relevant
now tho, Fujitsu has given up on 3.5" IDE drives.

 > but Seagates are good?.

Not necessarily. Nothing like as bad as the
IBM GXP drives, but I avoid them myself.

I like the Samsung P80 drives currently and they are the
last of the drive manufacturers to have full 3 year warrantys
on all their drives. Beautifully quiet too which is a real bonus.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:18 pm
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I just got one of those Samsungs. It is very thin and very quiet. It does
seem to run hot. Could be bad for long term durability. We'll see, I
guess.

Dave


"Rod Speed" <rod_speed DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > Smurfinaus <smurfinaus DeleteThis @NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94447B67CC42smurfinausinternodeo@203.16.214.244...
 >
  > > I suspect its time for me to get a new HD. The IBM 40Gb ive had
  > > last two years has been great but some bad sectors have been
  > > cropping up so im looking for a new drive. Previously i had Fujitsu
  > > 6.4 and 4.3 and both worked fine. Havent kept up with drive technology
  > > lately (nor CPU or Motherboards - gee i need new ones soon too..)
 >
 > I like Intel cpus and Asus motherboards with Intel chipsets myself.
 >
  > > so may i ask, in peoples experience what brand drives are
  > > reliable ?. Ive heard bad things about certain IBM ones,
 >
 > And the Fujitsu MPG drives too. Not relevant
 > now tho, Fujitsu has given up on 3.5" IDE drives.
 >
  > > but Seagates are good?.
 >
 > Not necessarily. Nothing like as bad as the
 > IBM GXP drives, but I avoid them myself.
 >
 > I like the Samsung P80 drives currently and they are the
 > last of the drive manufacturers to have full 3 year warrantys
 > on all their drives. Beautifully quiet too which is a real bonus.
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Mr. Grinch

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:53 pm
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"Rod Speed" <rod_speed.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:bqebs8$21c050$1@ID-69072.news.uni-berlin.de:
 > I like the Samsung P80 drives currently and they are the
 > last of the drive manufacturers to have full 3 year warrantys
 > on all their drives. Beautifully quiet too which is a real bonus.

While I would be happy to try their 160GB drives, I was wishing they had
something in the 300GB range, but they don't have anything bigger, not even
in 5400rpm.

160GB drives have been out for ages, almost a year, it sure seems to take a
long time for bigger sizes in the drive industry.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Papa

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2003 1:18 am
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You will probably get as many opinions as responses, and that is all they
are - opinions. My preference is Western Digital, for the simple reason that
I've never had a failure with them.

"Smurfinaus" <smurfinaus.RemoveThis@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94447B67CC42smurfinausinternodeo@203.16.214.244...
 > Hi All,
 > I suspect its time for me to get a new HD. The IBM 40Gb ive had last two
 > years has been great but some bad sectors have been cropping up so im
 > looking for a new drive. Previously i had Fujitsu 6.4 and 4.3 and both
 > worked fine. Havent kept up with drive technology lately (nor CPU or
 > Motherboards - gee i need new ones soon too..) so may i ask, in peoples
 > experience what brand drives are reliable ?. Ive heard bad things about
 > certain IBM ones, but Seagates are good?.
 > thanks in advance for any advice
 > Nijuu.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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John

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2003 4:51 am
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If you've got a good backup system in place, try using the IBM drive fitness
test to reformat that whole drive, then run the "thorough surface test"
option on it to make sure there are no longer any bad sectors. It'll
probably be right again for a couple of years.



"Smurfinaus" <smurfinaus.DeleteThis@NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:Xns94447B67CC42smurfinausinternodeo@203.16.214.244...
 > Hi All,
 > I suspect its time for me to get a new HD. The IBM 40Gb ive had last two
 > years has been great but some bad sectors have been cropping up so im
 > looking for a new drive. Previously i had Fujitsu 6.4 and 4.3 and both
 > worked fine. Havent kept up with drive technology lately (nor CPU or
 > Motherboards - gee i need new ones soon too..) so may i ask, in peoples
 > experience what brand drives are reliable ?. Ive heard bad things about
 > certain IBM ones, but Seagates are good?.
 > thanks in advance for any advice
 > Nijuu.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Cobblers

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Dec 04, 2003 6:09 pm
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On 1 Dec 2003 11:37:50 +1050, Smurfinaus <smurfinaus DeleteThis @NOSPAM.com>
wrote:

 >Hi All,
 >I suspect its time for me to get a new HD. The IBM 40Gb ive had last two
 >years has been great but some bad sectors have been cropping up so im
 >looking for a new drive. Previously i had Fujitsu 6.4 and 4.3 and both
 >worked fine. Havent kept up with drive technology lately (nor CPU or
 >Motherboards - gee i need new ones soon too..) so may i ask, in peoples
 >experience what brand drives are reliable ?. Ive heard bad things about
 >certain IBM ones, but Seagates are good?.
 >thanks in advance for any advice
 >Nijuu.

Pull straws and you'll get just as accurate an answer as you will find
here. I don't like Maxtor because I had two fail on me and one of the
replacement drives came with a bad block and is very noisy. I will be
buying either Seagate or Samsung next, and that's purely because I
want the quietest drives available. I like my Western Digital 80gb JB
drive though and would be happy with another one of those, but one
with 120-160gb. Lots of people here seem to like Maxtor though so what
do I know?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2003 2:55 am
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| > Seagates are good?.

I know 1 Seagate hdd bought in 4-95, & it still works. I'd avoid
Quantum ; their ICs fail with any slight voltage spikes, I have 3
dead Quantum hdds.
Mitsubishi makes very good & small surge absorbers, hdd
makers should fit these onto their PCBs to block voltage
spikes.
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J.Clarke1

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2003 11:57 pm
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 14:59:00 GMT
Michael Cecil <macecil RemoveThis @comcast.net> wrote:

 > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 08:23:32 -0600, chrisv <chrisv RemoveThis @nospam.invalid>
 > wrote:
 >
  > >On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 04:27:58 GMT, salfter RemoveThis @salfter.dyndns.org (Scott
  > >Alfter) wrote:
  > >
   > >>These
   > >>days, I'm mainly buying Western Digital xxxxJB drives. The 3-year
  > >warranty>is a Good Thing to have.
  > >
  > >Bah. Drives are so cheap now that the value of a long warrantee is
  > >almost zilch. So your drive goes belly-up after 2 years? Well,
  > >then, spend $70 and get a new one that's bigger and faster than the
  > >one you had before. It'll be a nice upgrade.
 >
 > A longer warranty is incentive for the drive manufacturer to not make
 > shit.

Nope, it is incentive for the drive manufacturer to charge a higher
price. Or do you really think that the cost of warranty repairs comes
out of the manufacturer's pocket?

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 3:47 am
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On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:55:28 +0800, "Cheah TE" <none RemoveThis @spam.biz.my>
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 >I know 1 Seagate hdd bought in 4-95, & it still works. I'd avoid
 >Quantum ; their ICs fail with any slight voltage spikes, I have 3
 >dead Quantum hdds.

Quantum no longer exists. Get this: I believe they were bought out
by...drum roll...Seagate.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 3:47 am
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Dave Glass wrote:
 > On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:55:28 +0800, "Cheah TE" <none DeleteThis @spam.biz.my>
 > wrote:
 >
 >
  >> I know 1 Seagate hdd bought in 4-95, & it still works. I'd avoid
  >> Quantum ; their ICs fail with any slight voltage spikes, I have 3
  >> dead Quantum hdds.
 >
 > Quantum no longer exists. Get this: I believe they were bought out
 > by...drum roll...Seagate.

No... Maxtor<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 7:27 am
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 >On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 23:55:28 +0800, "Cheah TE" <none.TakeThisOut@spam.biz.my>
 >wrote:
  >>I know 1 Seagate hdd bought in 4-95, & it still works. I'd avoid
  >>Quantum ; their ICs fail with any slight voltage spikes, I have 3
  >>dead Quantum hdds.
 >
 >Quantum no longer exists. Get this: I believe they were bought out
 >by...drum roll...Seagate.

It's worse than that...Quantum was bought out by Maxtor. Razz

(FWIW, I never had significantly more problems with Quantum hard drives than
with most others. I stay away from Maxtor (three dead 5.1GB drives in
almost as many months, plus numerous other problems since), and some of my
IBM drives have started acting up (only 75GXP & 60GXP models; the others
have been OK). Everything else has usually held up well enough. These
days, I'm mainly buying Western Digital xxxxJB drives. The 3-year warranty
is a Good Thing to have.

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 11:23 am
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On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 04:27:58 GMT, salfter DeleteThis @salfter.dyndns.org (Scott
Alfter) wrote:

 >These
 >days, I'm mainly buying Western Digital xxxxJB drives. The 3-year warranty
 >is a Good Thing to have.

Bah. Drives are so cheap now that the value of a long warrantee is
almost zilch. So your drive goes belly-up after 2 years? Well, then,
spend $70 and get a new one that's bigger and faster than the one you
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2003 4:45 pm
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Dave Glass <dave.DeleteThis@here.invalid> wrote in message
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 > Cheah TE <none.DeleteThis@spam.biz.my> wrote

  >> I know 1 Seagate hdd bought in 4-95, & it still works.
  >> I'd avoid Quantum ; their ICs fail with any slight voltage
  >> spikes, I have 3 dead Quantum hdds.

 > Quantum no longer exists.

Correct.

 > Get this: I believe they were bought out by...drum roll...Seagate.

You're wrong again. Maxtor.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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