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Since: Dec 07, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:35 am
Post subject: Which resistor to slow down my 6600's fan ?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:12 am
Post subject: Re: Which resistor to slow down my 6600's fan ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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OK. You made me curious so I dug out my multimeter and measured a case fan
that I had modded this way. I have two resistor in parallel. Each 150 ohms
for a total resistance of 75 ohms. This probably cuts to fans RPMs by about
half. So a good value to start with might be around 27 ohms and then go up
from there. Be sure to use at least 1/2 watt resistors. For this
particular mod the 150 ohm resistor are both 1/4 watt for a total of 1/2
watt.
Sorry for my earlier mistake. It had been a while since I had played with
that. I hope nobody burned up anything based on my errant post.
DaveL
"MaSTeR" <sorry.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> We have discussed the possibility to quiet down the original fan soldering
> a
> resistor on the fan's wire but I am not sure which resistor I should try.
> We
> started from 10K Ohm then 1k, then even 27ohm....
>
> I am a bit confused, any experience ?
>
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Which resistor to slow down my 6600's fan ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Resistors go up in what is known as preferred values.
For 12v fans.
anything between 18, 22,27,33,47 and 68ohm can be used.
you will find the next highest after 68 is a little too high and the fan may
have difficulty starting up.
I find either 33,47 or 68ohm gives a good reduction in noise. A lot depends how
efficient the air flow is through the case on choosing the right value.
47 or 68 I find give good results. Dependant on the fans used.
As not to create more heat I suggest 3watt wirewound type, as they are easily
obtained. They are still quite small in size and will easily support a couple of
case fans if necessary.
Wattage divided by voltage = Amps
voltage multiplied by Amperage = Watts
etc etc.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Which resistor to slow down my 6600's fan ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Just noticed the subject line and you mention its to slow down the fan on a 6600
card.
Sorry but the brain is a little slow today... case fans are one thing but the
gpu's on these modern graphic cards run quite warm and the fans tend to be on
the small side... so I would suggest you don't slow it down too much.
certainly no higher than 33ohm. Choose 22 or 27ohm.
I run a 6800gt card and like you I find the noise is too loud for my liking.
What I did was to make a blank pci card out of a piece of pcb board, matched to
the shape of a proper pci card with a round cutout to carry a low noise 80mm
fan. I then mount it on an old card back plate and fit it in the adjacent pci
slow below the graphics card.. a bit of trouble I know but it works very well
and is almost silent.
Obviously make sure there is no possibility of a metal contact taking place
where it plugs into the pci slot.  )))) LOL
The other option is to get one of the VGA Silencers by Artic Cooling, these work
quite well too, but for some reason the fans they currently use are not so quiet
as the ones they used to fit when they first marketed the product, but are still
a better than the original fan.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 5:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Which resistor to slow down my 6600's fan ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I've just put in a 68Ohm, 2watts.
After 10 min not playing games the temperature is 50-51C against 43-44C.
I will attempt to play a game and see what happens...
Am I wrong thinking that since the hard coded core shutdown temperature for
this gfx card is 127C I should be positive ?
ps the noise has gone completely, now I do realise P4 fans are crap. >> Stay informed about: Which resistor to slow down my 6600's fan ? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:35 am
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:18:49 -0000, "MaSTeR" <sorry.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
>We have discussed the possibility to quiet down the original fan soldering a
>resistor on the fan's wire but I am not sure which resistor I should try. We
>started from 10K Ohm then 1k, then even 27ohm....
>
>I am a bit confused, any experience ?
>
>
Putting a resistor in series with a fan runs the risk of the fan
intermittently failing to start on power-up. A very inexpensive way of
irreversibly damaging the GPU.
John Lewis<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Which resistor to slow down my 6600's fan ? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:35 am
Post subject: Re: Which resistor to slow down my 6600's fan ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"John Lewis" <john.dsl DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:18:49 -0000, "MaSTeR" <sorry DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>We have discussed the possibility to quiet down the original fan soldering
>>a
>>resistor on the fan's wire but I am not sure which resistor I should try.
>>We
>>started from 10K Ohm then 1k, then even 27ohm....
>>
>>I am a bit confused, any experience ?
>>
>>
>
> Putting a resistor in series with a fan runs the risk of the fan
> intermittently failing to start on power-up. A very inexpensive way of
> irreversibly damaging the GPU.
>
> John Lewis
>
Points of view. I ran my overnight and it is just 7C hotter than before. The
noise is completely gone and the fan even if slower doesn't struggle at all.
Besides:
- if the card gets hotter the fan will increase its speed, thus if stuck
(very unlikely) will start anyway
- if the card gets too hot it will shut down (threshold is 127 by default
and mine doesn't get hotter than 70C)
I would say a very cheap way to quiet the beast.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Which resistor to slow down my 6600's fan ? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 6:35 am
Post subject: Re: Which resistor to slow down my 6600's fan ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"MaSTeR" <sorry RemoveThis @nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "John Lewis" <john.dsl RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:41ede454.35615683@news.verizon.net...
>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:18:49 -0000, "MaSTeR" <sorry RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>We have discussed the possibility to quiet down the original fan
>>>soldering a
>>>resistor on the fan's wire but I am not sure which resistor I should try.
>>>We
>>>started from 10K Ohm then 1k, then even 27ohm....
>>>
>>>I am a bit confused, any experience ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Putting a resistor in series with a fan runs the risk of the fan
>> intermittently failing to start on power-up. A very inexpensive way of
>> irreversibly damaging the GPU.
>>
>> John Lewis
>>
> Points of view. I ran my overnight and it is just 7C hotter than before.
> The noise is completely gone and the fan even if slower doesn't struggle
> at all.
> Besides:
> - if the card gets hotter the fan will increase its speed, thus if stuck
> (very unlikely) will start anyway
> - if the card gets too hot it will shut down (threshold is 127 by default
> and mine doesn't get hotter than 70C)
>
> I would say a very cheap way to quiet the beast.
I have a friend with an original radeon not even overclocked
68C idle and 78C on load.
mine is 50 and 73.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Which resistor to slow down my 6600's fan ? |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 11:35 pm
Post subject: Re: Which resistor to slow down my 6600's fan ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"MaSTeR" <sorry.TakeThisOut@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "MaSTeR" <sorry.TakeThisOut@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:356pe1F3pukvtU1@individual.net...
>> "John Lewis" <john.dsl.TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:41ede454.35615683@news.verizon.net...
>>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:18:49 -0000, "MaSTeR" <sorry.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We have discussed the possibility to quiet down the original fan
>>>> soldering a
>>>> resistor on the fan's wire but I am not sure which resistor I should
>>>> try. We
>>>> started from 10K Ohm then 1k, then even 27ohm....
>>>>
>>>> I am a bit confused, any experience ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Putting a resistor in series with a fan runs the risk of the fan
>>> intermittently failing to start on power-up. A very inexpensive way of
>>> irreversibly damaging the GPU.
>>>
>>> John Lewis
>>>
>> Points of view. I ran my overnight and it is just 7C hotter than before.
>> The noise is completely gone and the fan even if slower doesn't struggle
>> at all.
>> Besides:
>> - if the card gets hotter the fan will increase its speed, thus if stuck
>> (very unlikely) will start anyway
>> - if the card gets too hot it will shut down (threshold is 127 by default
>> and mine doesn't get hotter than 70C)
>>
>> I would say a very cheap way to quiet the beast.
>
> I have a friend with an original radeon not even overclocked
>
> 68C idle and 78C on load.
> mine is 50 and 73.
might be your friend's case ventilation suffers - heat build up<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Which resistor to slow down my 6600's fan ? |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:35 am
Post subject: Re: Which resistor to slow down my 6600's fan ? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"MaSTeR" <sorry.RemoveThis@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "John Lewis" <john.dsl.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:41ede454.35615683@news.verizon.net...
>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:18:49 -0000, "MaSTeR" <sorry.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We have discussed the possibility to quiet down the original fan
>>> soldering a
>>> resistor on the fan's wire but I am not sure which resistor I should
>>> try. We
>>> started from 10K Ohm then 1k, then even 27ohm....
>>>
>>> I am a bit confused, any experience ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Putting a resistor in series with a fan runs the risk of the fan
>> intermittently failing to start on power-up. A very inexpensive way of
>> irreversibly damaging the GPU.
>>
>> John Lewis
>>
> Points of view. I ran my overnight and it is just 7C hotter than before.
> The noise is completely gone and the fan even if slower doesn't struggle
> at all.
depends on what's your room temp +7C can be already way too much..next
summer!
Besides:
> - if the card gets hotter the fan will increase its speed, thus if stuck
> (very unlikely) will start anyway
dont bet on it since the resistor inline will affect this speed as well..
the fan won't start spinning if there is not enough current (amps)
available - even more problematic if the fan must spin "uphill" (card
mounted upright)
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 12:35 am
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"MaSTeR" <sorry DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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> We have discussed the possibility to quiet down the original fan
> soldering a resistor on the fan's wire but I am not sure which resistor I
> should try. We started from 10K Ohm then 1k, then even 27ohm....
>
> I am a bit confused, any experience ?
Usually a 10-20% rpm reduction is sufficient to silence a fan.
1) Find out how much the actual current through the fan is
2) substract 10-20% from this current (desired current)
3) calculate the resistor value based on the difference of the actual
current and the desired current.
simple like that! BTW, u dont need 2 Watt - 1 Watt will be plenty enough<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Which resistor to slow down my 6600's fan ? |
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