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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:07 am
Post subject: running too hot?
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Hello. Regarding a prior post, this is the second hard drive in this
machine that has had physical problems in the last 6 months. I wonder
if it is a power or heat problem. I was fairly sure that the first was
due to the fact that his room gets way too hot and the computer also
throws off tons of heat. He bought this huge server tower and built his
machine in there. He has a big CPU fan and 3 or 4 fans on the case. It
is winter now, so of course we won't be running the air conditioning.
What else can he do to his box to keep the drives cooler? I will need
to see if the drives are adjacent, and what they are near.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:55 am
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Previously Irwin <ebct.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello. Regarding a prior post, this is the second hard drive in this
> machine that has had physical problems in the last 6 months. I wonder
> if it is a power or heat problem. I was fairly sure that the first was
> due to the fact that his room gets way too hot and the computer also
> throws off tons of heat. He bought this huge server tower and built his
> machine in there. He has a big CPU fan and 3 or 4 fans on the case. It
> is winter now, so of course we won't be running the air conditioning.
> What else can he do to his box to keep the drives cooler? I will need
> to see if the drives are adjacent, and what they are near.
Best method: Get fans directly before the HDDs that blow air
over them from the outside. Some cases have this. You can also
get some enclosures that do this. You can do it yourself as well
(ususllay needs mounting the drives in 5 1/4" bays, cutting
appropriate holes into the front plastic covers and installing
an 80mm or 120mm fan there).
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 5:59 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:55 pm
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Sean Cousins <spam RemoveThis @off.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod_speed RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote
>> Really depends on the drives, some like the seagates
>> tend to run hotter than say the samsungs.
> I have a Seagate Barracuda and a Samsung
> Spinpoint, they both read 43c in Everest right now.
Doesnt prove anything much unless you
swap them around and get the same result.
I've got a pair of Samsung P80s, 120G and 160G
in one system and they arent always at the same
temp, mainly because of where they are mounted.
The relativitys change when you change them around. >> Stay informed about: running too hot? |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:55 pm
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:55 am
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Sean Cousins <spam.DeleteThis@off.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod_speed.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Sean Cousins <spam.DeleteThis@off.invalid> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> Really depends on the drives, some like the seagates
>>>> tend to run hotter than say the samsungs.
>>> I have a Seagate Barracuda and a Samsung
>>> Spinpoint, they both read 43c in Everest right now.
>> Doesnt prove anything much unless you
>> swap them around and get the same result.
> I'm not about to do that do prove a point but they are
> close enough together that my point is fairly accurate.
No it doesnt.
> Seagate HDD's don't run any hotter than Samsung's.
You dont know that.
> You don't even have both makes of HDD installed
You dont know that either.
> so how would you know?
I might just have more than that particular PC. >> Stay informed about: running too hot? |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:55 am
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Sean Cousins <spam.TakeThisOut@off.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod_speed.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote
>> Sean Cousins <spam.TakeThisOut@off.invalid> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod_speed.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote
>>>> Really depends on the drives, some like the seagates
>>>> tend to run hotter than say the samsungs.
>>> I have a Seagate Barracuda and a Samsung
>>> Spinpoint, they both read 43c in Everest right now.
>> Doesnt prove anything much unless you
>> swap them around and get the same result.
> I'm not about to do that do prove a point but they are
> close enough together that my point is fairly accurate.
No it doesnt.
> Seagate HDD's don't run any hotter than Samsung's.
You dont know that.
> You don't even have both makes of HDD installed
You dont know that either.
> so how would you know?
I might just have more than that particular PC.
Try running both of them loose on the desktop and see which gets hotter.
Corse you arent actually interested in the facts, so you wont actually bother. >> Stay informed about: running too hot? |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:20 am
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 1:45 pm
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> >Really depends on the drives, some like
> >the seagates tend to run hotter than say the samsungs.
>
> I have a Seagate Barracuda and a Samsung Spinpoint, they both read 43c
> in Everest right now.
That is strange. My two disks always show a different temperature. >> Stay informed about: running too hot? |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:55 am
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Previously Peter <peterfoxghost.DeleteThis@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >Really depends on the drives, some like
>> >the seagates tend to run hotter than say the samsungs.
>>
>> I have a Seagate Barracuda and a Samsung Spinpoint, they both read 43c
>> in Everest right now.
> That is strange. My two disks always show a different temperature.
What do you mean? Fluctuating readings? I have had that wit one
old Maxtor drive. Probably a bad sensor. Or different temperatures
in both drives? Not surptising, the temperature sensors are cheap and
possibly have 2-3C tolerance. Also the drives may have slightly
different cooling and load.
Example:
R4 ~#hddtemp /dev/hda /dev/hdb /dev/hdc /dev/hdd
/dev/hda: ST3400832A: 26 C
/dev/hdb: ST3400832A: 26 C
/dev/hdc: ST3400832A: 26 C
/dev/hdd: ST3400832A: 28 C
R4 ~#
These drives have identical load (it is a RAID5 array) and identical
cooling.
Arno >> Stay informed about: running too hot? |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:14 am
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> >> I have a Seagate Barracuda and a Samsung Spinpoint, they both read 43c
> >> in Everest right now.
>
> > That is strange. My two disks always show a different temperature.
>
> What do you mean? Fluctuating readings?
Of course. First of all they are two different brands, secondly a different
load and thirdly, I took readings when computer was just warming up (5
minutes after boot). Readings were taken just seconds apart.
> I have had that wit one
> old Maxtor drive. Probably a bad sensor. Or different temperatures
> in both drives? Not surptising, the temperature sensors are cheap and
> possibly have 2-3C tolerance. Also the drives may have slightly
> different cooling and load.
>
> Example:
>
> R4 ~#hddtemp /dev/hda /dev/hdb /dev/hdc /dev/hdd
> /dev/hda: ST3400832A: 26 C
> /dev/hdb: ST3400832A: 26 C
> /dev/hdc: ST3400832A: 26 C
> /dev/hdd: ST3400832A: 28 C
> R4 ~#
>
> These drives have identical load (it is a RAID5 array) and identical
> cooling. >> Stay informed about: running too hot? |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:55 pm
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Previously Peter <peterfoxghost DeleteThis @yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >> I have a Seagate Barracuda and a Samsung Spinpoint, they both read 43c
>> >> in Everest right now.
>>
>> > That is strange. My two disks always show a different temperature.
>>
>> What do you mean? Fluctuating readings?
> Of course. First of all they are two different brands, secondly a different
> load and thirdly, I took readings when computer was just warming up (5
> minutes after boot). Readings were taken just seconds apart.
>> I have had that wit one
>> old Maxtor drive. Probably a bad sensor. Or different temperatures
>> in both drives? Not surptising, the temperature sensors are cheap and
>> possibly have 2-3C tolerance. Also the drives may have slightly
>> different cooling and load.
>>
>> Example:
>>
>> R4 ~#hddtemp /dev/hda /dev/hdb /dev/hdc /dev/hdd
>> /dev/hda: ST3400832A: 26 C
>> /dev/hdb: ST3400832A: 26 C
>> /dev/hdc: ST3400832A: 26 C
>> /dev/hdd: ST3400832A: 28 C
>> R4 ~#
>>
>> These drives have identical load (it is a RAID5 array) and identical
>> cooling. >> Stay informed about: running too hot? |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:55 pm
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> Previously Peter <peterfoxghost.DeleteThis@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >> >> I have a Seagate Barracuda and a Samsung Spinpoint, they both read
43c
> >> >> in Everest right now.
> >>
> >> > That is strange. My two disks always show a different temperature.
> >>
> >> What do you mean? Fluctuating readings?
>
> > Of course. First of all they are two different brands, secondly a
different
> > load and thirdly, I took readings when computer was just warming up (5
> > minutes after boot). Readings were taken just seconds apart.
>
> >> I have had that wit one
> >> old Maxtor drive. Probably a bad sensor. Or different temperatures
> >> in both drives? Not surptising, the temperature sensors are cheap and
> >> possibly have 2-3C tolerance. Also the drives may have slightly
> >> different cooling and load.
> >>
> >> Example:
> >>
> >> R4 ~#hddtemp /dev/hda /dev/hdb /dev/hdc /dev/hdd
> >> /dev/hda: ST3400832A: 26 C
> >> /dev/hdb: ST3400832A: 26 C
> >> /dev/hdc: ST3400832A: 26 C
> >> /dev/hdd: ST3400832A: 28 C
> >> R4 ~#
> >>
> >> These drives have identical load (it is a RAID5 array) and identical
> >> cooling.
>
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:55 pm
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Previously Peter <peterfoxghost DeleteThis @yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> Previously Peter <peterfoxghost DeleteThis @yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> >> >> I have a Seagate Barracuda and a Samsung Spinpoint, they both read
> 43c
>> >> >> in Everest right now.
>> >>
>> >> > That is strange. My two disks always show a different temperature.
>> >>
>> >> What do you mean? Fluctuating readings?
>>
>> > Of course. First of all they are two different brands, secondly a
> different
>> > load and thirdly, I took readings when computer was just warming up (5
>> > minutes after boot). Readings were taken just seconds apart.
>>
>> >> I have had that wit one
>> >> old Maxtor drive. Probably a bad sensor. Or different temperatures
>> >> in both drives? Not surptising, the temperature sensors are cheap and
>> >> possibly have 2-3C tolerance. Also the drives may have slightly
>> >> different cooling and load.
>> >>
>> >> Example:
>> >>
>> >> R4 ~#hddtemp /dev/hda /dev/hdb /dev/hdc /dev/hdd
>> >> /dev/hda: ST3400832A: 26 C
>> >> /dev/hdb: ST3400832A: 26 C
>> >> /dev/hdc: ST3400832A: 26 C
>> >> /dev/hdd: ST3400832A: 28 C
>> >> R4 ~#
>> >>
>> >> These drives have identical load (it is a RAID5 array) and identical
>> >> cooling.
>>
Just a demonstration thet the sensors have limited accuracy and some
may be off more than others.
Arno >> Stay informed about: running too hot? |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:55 pm
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> >> >> >> I have a Seagate Barracuda and a Samsung Spinpoint, they both
read
> > 43c
> >> >> >> in Everest right now.
> >> >>
> >> >> > That is strange. My two disks always show a different temperature.
> >> >>
> >> >> What do you mean? Fluctuating readings?
> >>
> >> > Of course. First of all they are two different brands, secondly a
> > different
> >> > load and thirdly, I took readings when computer was just warming up
(5
> >> > minutes after boot). Readings were taken just seconds apart.
> >>
> >> >> I have had that wit one
> >> >> old Maxtor drive. Probably a bad sensor. Or different temperatures
> >> >> in both drives? Not surptising, the temperature sensors are cheap
and
> >> >> possibly have 2-3C tolerance. Also the drives may have slightly
> >> >> different cooling and load.
> >> >>
> >> >> Example:
> >> >>
> >> >> R4 ~#hddtemp /dev/hda /dev/hdb /dev/hdc /dev/hdd
> >> >> /dev/hda: ST3400832A: 26 C
> >> >> /dev/hdb: ST3400832A: 26 C
> >> >> /dev/hdc: ST3400832A: 26 C
> >> >> /dev/hdd: ST3400832A: 28 C
> >> >> R4 ~#
> >> >>
> >> >> These drives have identical load (it is a RAID5 array) and identical
> >> >> cooling.
> >>
>
> Just a demonstration thet the sensors have limited accuracy and some
> may be off more than others.
>
> Arno
That is fine, but my questionmark was about your blank post. >> Stay informed about: running too hot? |
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