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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:11 am
Post subject: seting up two hubs
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i have two computers out in my shed connected to a 12 port hub and i
have a laptop and another computer concted to another 12 port hub in the
house. how can i get the computers to talk to the computer is the house. i
have a network lead runing from the house to the shed. where abouts is is it
ment to go in to the hubs?
The computers i have in the house are setup like this, the laptop is in
port 1 and the Desktop computer is in port 2, ( the laptop is running XP
Home and the computer is running win 2000 pro, they can't see each other yet
as to i'm unsure how to set xp and win 2000 up to see each other).
In the shed computer 1 is in port 5 and the computer 2 is in port 6.
(etc, etc)
so where do i put the network lead that is in the middle of the hubs. i
tryed putting them in port 12 at each hub and they did'nt work. there is and
extension plug (in and out plug) an RS-232 male plug and a thin Lan plug.
if any one can help me here please, it would be really good. |
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:11 am
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you'll need a cross-over cable to connect hub to hub its basically a regular
ethernet cable with a couple of pins reversed ... do a search in google for
cross-over cabling pin out and you'll see what you need to do to the cable
to make it work with 2 hubs
"Possum" <jbzn1.TakeThisOut@bigpond.com.au> wrote in message
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> i have two computers out in my shed connected to a 12 port hub and i
> have a laptop and another computer concted to another 12 port hub in the
> house. how can i get the computers to talk to the computer is the house. i
> have a network lead runing from the house to the shed. where abouts is is
it
> ment to go in to the hubs?
> The computers i have in the house are setup like this, the laptop is
in
> port 1 and the Desktop computer is in port 2, ( the laptop is running XP
> Home and the computer is running win 2000 pro, they can't see each other
yet
> as to i'm unsure how to set xp and win 2000 up to see each other).
> In the shed computer 1 is in port 5 and the computer 2 is in port 6.
> (etc, etc)
>
> so where do i put the network lead that is in the middle of the hubs.
i
> tryed putting them in port 12 at each hub and they did'nt work. there is
and
> extension plug (in and out plug) an RS-232 male plug and a thin Lan plug.
>
> if any one can help me here please, it would be really good.
>
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:20 am
Post subject: Re: seting up two hubs [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Possum wrote:
> i have two computers out in my shed connected to a 12 port hub and i
> have a laptop and another computer concted to another 12 port hub in the
> house. how can i get the computers to talk to the computer is the house. i
> have a network lead runing from the house to the shed. where abouts is is it
> ment to go in to the hubs?
> The computers i have in the house are setup like this, the laptop is in
> port 1 and the Desktop computer is in port 2, ( the laptop is running XP
> Home and the computer is running win 2000 pro, they can't see each other yet
> as to i'm unsure how to set xp and win 2000 up to see each other).
> In the shed computer 1 is in port 5 and the computer 2 is in port 6.
> (etc, etc)
>
> so where do i put the network lead that is in the middle of the hubs. i
> tryed putting them in port 12 at each hub and they did'nt work. there is and
> extension plug (in and out plug) an RS-232 male plug and a thin Lan plug.
>
> if any one can help me here please, it would be really good.
>
>
Some hubs have something identified as an "uplink" port (or a port that
can be switched to behave as either an uplink port or regular one). If
yours does, connect that on one end with a regular port on the other
end. If neither of your hubs has an uplink port, you need a crossover
cable in series with your long cable. They can be purchased for about
the same price as a regular Cat5 cable. Or you can construct one if you
have the right crimper using instructions on the Linksys site (among
others).
HTH
--
After being targeted with gigabytes of trash by the "SWEN" worm, I have
concluded we must conceal our e-mail address. Our true address is the
mirror image of what you see before the "@" symbol. It's a shame such
steps are necessary. ...Charlie<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: seting up two hubs |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:24 am
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CJT wrote:
> Possum wrote:
>
>> i have two computers out in my shed connected to a 12 port hub and i
>> have a laptop and another computer concted to another 12 port hub in the
>> house. how can i get the computers to talk to the computer is the
>> house. i
>> have a network lead runing from the house to the shed. where abouts is
>> is it
>> ment to go in to the hubs?
>> The computers i have in the house are setup like this, the laptop
>> is in
>> port 1 and the Desktop computer is in port 2, ( the laptop is running XP
>> Home and the computer is running win 2000 pro, they can't see each
>> other yet
>> as to i'm unsure how to set xp and win 2000 up to see each other).
>> In the shed computer 1 is in port 5 and the computer 2 is in port 6.
>> (etc, etc)
>>
>> so where do i put the network lead that is in the middle of the
>> hubs. i
>> tryed putting them in port 12 at each hub and they did'nt work. there
>> is and
>> extension plug (in and out plug) an RS-232 male plug and a thin Lan plug.
>>
>> if any one can help me here please, it would be really good.
>>
>>
> Some hubs have something identified as an "uplink" port (or a port that
> can be switched to behave as either an uplink port or regular one). If
> yours does, connect that on one end with a regular port on the other
> end. If neither of your hubs has an uplink port, you need a crossover
> cable in series with your long cable. They can be purchased for about
> the same price as a regular Cat5 cable. Or you can construct one if you
> have the right crimper using instructions on the Linksys site (among
> others).
>
> HTH
>
BTW, some of the newer switches/hubs will autosense when a crossover
connection is needed and provide it automatically. You could add one
of those between the two hubs you have, and it would sort things out.
But the crossover cable should be cheaper.
--
After being targeted with gigabytes of trash by the "SWEN" worm, I have
concluded we must conceal our e-mail address. Our true address is the
mirror image of what you see before the "@" symbol. It's a shame such
steps are necessary. ...Charlie<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: seting up two hubs |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:55 am
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On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 02:20:50 GMT, CJT wrote in aus.computers:
> Some hubs have something identified as an "uplink" port (or a port
> that can be switched to behave as either an uplink port or regular
> one). If yours does, connect that on one end with a regular port on
> the other end.
Alternatively, and if the shed isn't that close to the house, you could
buy a "wireless bridge" which will bridge the two hubs.
Most switches nowadays have uplink ports though -- are they labelled as
switches or hubs (sound like hubs if they're 12-port).
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 10:45 am
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 11:28 am
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do you mean the plug one lead in the extension plug of one ogf the hubs?
"David M. Williams" <dave.TakeThisOut@qed.newcastle.edu.au> wrote in message
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> Connect the uplink port of one hub to any ethernet socket in the other
hub.
> That's all there is to it.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 12:35 pm
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thanks all of you for the help, it worked
regards ben
"Possum" <jbzn1 DeleteThis @bigpond.com.au> wrote in message
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> i have two computers out in my shed connected to a 12 port hub and i
> have a laptop and another computer concted to another 12 port hub in the
> house. how can i get the computers to talk to the computer is the house. i
> have a network lead runing from the house to the shed. where abouts is is
it
> ment to go in to the hubs?
> The computers i have in the house are setup like this, the laptop is
in
> port 1 and the Desktop computer is in port 2, ( the laptop is running XP
> Home and the computer is running win 2000 pro, they can't see each other
yet
> as to i'm unsure how to set xp and win 2000 up to see each other).
> In the shed computer 1 is in port 5 and the computer 2 is in port 6.
> (etc, etc)
>
> so where do i put the network lead that is in the middle of the hubs.
i
> tryed putting them in port 12 at each hub and they did'nt work. there is
and
> extension plug (in and out plug) an RS-232 male plug and a thin Lan plug.
>
> if any one can help me here please, it would be really good.
>
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:01 pm
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4000 psi <nospam DeleteThis @for_me.com> wrote in message
news:EiJLb.427814$J77.42774@fed1read07...
> you'll need a cross-over cable to connect hub to hub
Not with hubs that have an automatic sense of cable type.
> its basically a regular ethernet cable with a couple
> of pins reversed ... do a search in google for cross-over
> cabling pin out and you'll see what you need to do
> to the cable to make it work with 2 hubs
> "Possum" <jbzn1 DeleteThis @bigpond.com.au> wrote in message
> news:WaJLb.3492$Wa.2366@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > i have two computers out in my shed connected to a 12 port hub and i
> > have a laptop and another computer concted to another 12 port hub in the
> > house. how can i get the computers to talk to the computer is the house. i
> > have a network lead runing from the house to the shed. where abouts is is
> it
> > ment to go in to the hubs?
> > The computers i have in the house are setup like this, the laptop is
> in
> > port 1 and the Desktop computer is in port 2, ( the laptop is running XP
> > Home and the computer is running win 2000 pro, they can't see each other
> yet
> > as to i'm unsure how to set xp and win 2000 up to see each other).
> > In the shed computer 1 is in port 5 and the computer 2 is in port 6.
> > (etc, etc)
> >
> > so where do i put the network lead that is in the middle of the hubs.
> i
> > tryed putting them in port 12 at each hub and they did'nt work. there is
> and
> > extension plug (in and out plug) an RS-232 male plug and a thin Lan plug.
> >
> > if any one can help me here please, it would be really good.
> >
> >
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:01 pm
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Rod Speed wrote:
> 4000 psi <nospam DeleteThis @for_me.com> wrote in message
> news:EiJLb.427814$J77.42774@fed1read07...
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>>you'll need a cross-over cable to connect hub to hub
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> Not with hubs that have an automatic sense of cable type.
True, but he already said it didn't work when he simply connected them,
so apparently his don't auto-sense.
<snip>
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mirror image of what you see before the "@" symbol. It's a shame such
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 5:45 pm
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>On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 02:20:50 GMT, CJT wrote in aus.computers:
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>> Some hubs have something identified as an "uplink" port (or a port
>> that can be switched to behave as either an uplink port or regular
>> one). If yours does, connect that on one end with a regular port on
>> the other end.
see <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ozcableguy.com" target="_blank">www.ozcableguy.com</a> for networking information.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: seting up two hubs |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 6:38 pm
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CJT <abujlehc.DeleteThis@prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> Rod Speed wrote
>> 4000 psi <nospam.DeleteThis@for_me.com> wrote
>>> you'll need a cross-over cable to connect hub to hub
>> Not with hubs that have an automatic sense of cable type.
> True, but he already said it didn't work when he simply
> connected them, so apparently his don't auto-sense.
You dont know that. The other possibility is the
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 5:01 pm
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You're better off using switches rather than hubs. They're so cheap, I'd
get rid of the hubs.
Under network connections (in control panel, under TCP/IP) Make sure each
computer has a unique IP address and on the same network ID. (IE - use
192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.4) Otherwise if you have an ADSL router, use DHCP
and set each computer to obtain IP addresses automatically. Also make sure
each machine has the same WORKGROUP name. with windows 2000 and XP right
click my computer, proporties. Then under network identification click
change.
Hope this helps.
"Possum" <jbzn1 RemoveThis @bigpond.com.au> wrote in message
news:WaJLb.3492$Wa.2366@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> i have two computers out in my shed connected to a 12 port hub and i
> have a laptop and another computer concted to another 12 port hub in the
> house. how can i get the computers to talk to the computer is the house. i
> have a network lead runing from the house to the shed. where abouts is is
it
> ment to go in to the hubs?
> The computers i have in the house are setup like this, the laptop is
in
> port 1 and the Desktop computer is in port 2, ( the laptop is running XP
> Home and the computer is running win 2000 pro, they can't see each other
yet
> as to i'm unsure how to set xp and win 2000 up to see each other).
> In the shed computer 1 is in port 5 and the computer 2 is in port 6.
> (etc, etc)
>
> so where do i put the network lead that is in the middle of the hubs.
i
> tryed putting them in port 12 at each hub and they did'nt work. there is
and
> extension plug (in and out plug) an RS-232 male plug and a thin Lan plug.
>
> if any one can help me here please, it would be really good.
>
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 5:01 pm
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Jamie Nicholls wrote:
> You're better off using switches rather than hubs. They're so cheap, I'd
> get rid of the hubs.
>
<snip>
I'm of the "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" school. Hubs are fine for
small and/or lightly loaded networks. Once the collision light is on
often, then upgrade.
If buying for expansion and the premium for a switch over a hub is
small or nonexistent, then pick the switch. I moved to switches when
I changed from 10 Mbps to 10/100.
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After being targeted with gigabytes of trash by the "SWEN" worm, I have
concluded we must conceal our e-mail address. Our true address is the
mirror image of what you see before the "@" symbol. It's a shame such
steps are necessary. ...Charlie<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: seting up two hubs |
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:57 pm
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Jamie Nicholls <home.RemoveThis@home.com> wrote in message
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> You're better off using switches rather than hubs.
Thats unlikely to make any difference with such a small network.
Bet you wouldnt be able to pick it in a double blind trial.
> They're so cheap, I'd get rid of the hubs.
Waste of money.
> Under network connections (in control panel, under TCP/IP)
> Make sure each computer has a unique IP address and on
> the same network ID. (IE - use 192.168.1.1 - 192.168.1.4)
That isnt the only way either.
> Otherwise if you have an ADSL router, use DHCP and set
> each computer to obtain IP addresses automatically. Also
> make sure each machine has the same WORKGROUP name.
That last isnt necessary with XP.
> with windows 2000 and XP right click my computer,
> proporties. Then under network identification click change.
> "Possum" <jbzn1.RemoveThis@bigpond.com.au> wrote in message
> news:WaJLb.3492$Wa.2366@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > i have two computers out in my shed connected to a 12 port hub and i
> > have a laptop and another computer concted to another 12 port hub in the
> > house. how can i get the computers to talk to the computer is the house. i
> > have a network lead runing from the house to the shed. where abouts is is
> it
> > ment to go in to the hubs?
> > The computers i have in the house are setup like this, the laptop is
> in
> > port 1 and the Desktop computer is in port 2, ( the laptop is running XP
> > Home and the computer is running win 2000 pro, they can't see each other
> yet
> > as to i'm unsure how to set xp and win 2000 up to see each other).
> > In the shed computer 1 is in port 5 and the computer 2 is in port 6.
> > (etc, etc)
> >
> > so where do i put the network lead that is in the middle of the hubs.
> i
> > tryed putting them in port 12 at each hub and they did'nt work. there is
> and
> > extension plug (in and out plug) an RS-232 male plug and a thin Lan plug.
> >
> > if any one can help me here please, it would be really good.
> >
> >
>
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