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zebra26

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:42 pm
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I am looking at a new computer purchase and I am a little confused
regarding the graphics.

The unit is an HP desktop 1330 which has an integrated ATI radeon
xpress 200 graphics with 256k shared video memory.

I am assuming this memory is shared with the memory installed in the
computer which comes with 1 GB but is expandable to 4GB?

I intend to expand to 3 or 4GB on this machine. What would the graphics
capability be like compared to a seperate graphics card of say 256 or
128 meg?
There is 1 PCI express slot available in the machine.
Z.

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velimala

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:55 pm
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Depends on the separate graphics card, of course, but most likely almost
any current card will outperform the integrated X200 chip by a very
large margin indeed. The amount of graphics memory isn't a very big
factor in graphics performance, it is the chip used which makes all the
difference. And simply increasing your RAM amount doesn't do anything to
graphics performance.

On a side note, what an earth are you going to do with 3 or 4 GB's of
memory anyway? There are very few applications (or games) that will
benefit from that much memory (besides server use).

zebra26.TakeThisOut@gmail.com kirjoitti:
> I am looking at a new computer purchase and I am a little confused
> regarding the graphics.
>
> The unit is an HP desktop 1330 which has an integrated ATI radeon
> xpress 200 graphics with 256k shared video memory.
>
> I am assuming this memory is shared with the memory installed in the
> computer which comes with 1 GB but is expandable to 4GB?
>
> I intend to expand to 3 or 4GB on this machine. What would the graphics
> capability be like compared to a seperate graphics card of say 256 or
> 128 meg?
> There is 1 PCI express slot available in the machine.
> Z.
>

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John Doe

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 12:55 am
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zebra26.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:

>
> I am looking at a new computer purchase and I am a little confused
> regarding the graphics.
>
> The unit is an HP desktop 1330 which has an integrated ATI radeon
> xpress 200 graphics with 256k shared video memory.
>
> I am assuming this memory is shared with the memory installed in
> the computer which comes with 1 GB but is expandable to 4GB?
>
> I intend to expand to 3 or 4GB on this machine. What would the
> graphics capability be like compared to a seperate graphics card
> of say 256 or 128 meg? There is 1 PCI express slot available in
> the machine. Z.

Built-in video is notorious for being slow compared to a video card.
Its graphics capability depends on your application. If you
are a gamer or a graphics artist, you don't want to use built-in
video.

The built-in video probably won't hurt since you can add a video
card, but it's a waste of money and mainboard resources if you want
performance.

All of the cool stuff on a high-performance video card aren't on
your mainboard.

Good luck.







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beyond that, you will have to ask the regulars here
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 5:55 am
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"John Doe" <jdoe RemoveThis @usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message
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> zebra26 RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> I am looking at a new computer purchase and I am a little confused
>> regarding the graphics.
>>
>> The unit is an HP desktop 1330 which has an integrated ATI radeon
>> xpress 200 graphics with 256k shared video memory.
>>
>> I am assuming this memory is shared with the memory installed in
>> the computer which comes with 1 GB but is expandable to 4GB?
>>
>> I intend to expand to 3 or 4GB on this machine. What would the
>> graphics capability be like compared to a seperate graphics card
>> of say 256 or 128 meg? There is 1 PCI express slot available in
>> the machine. Z.
>
> Built-in video is notorious for being slow compared to a video card.
> Its graphics capability depends on your application. If you
> are a gamer or a graphics artist, you don't want to use built-in
> video.
>
> The built-in video probably won't hurt since you can add a video
> card, but it's a waste of money and mainboard resources if you want
> performance.
>
> All of the cool stuff on a high-performance video card aren't on
> your mainboard.
>
> Good luck.
>

Check out the reviews for the chipset, it runs surprisingly well, just gets
outdated too quickly that's all.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:55 pm
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"abc" <a b.c> wrote:

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> "John Doe" <jdoe usenet.love.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Xns9788E6AEAF90Ffollydom 207.115.17.102...
>> zebra26 gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I am looking at a new computer purchase and I am a little
>>> confused regarding the graphics.
>>>
>>> The unit is an HP desktop 1330 which has an integrated ATI
>>> radeon xpress 200 graphics with 256k shared video memory.

>
> Check out the reviews for the chipset, it runs surprisingly well,
> just gets outdated too quickly that's all.

For what applications?

The user is talking about the idea that increasing mainboard/system
memory will increase the performance of the built-in video. He
hasn't specified an application, but we can assume he wants fast
video.

I replace my mainboard more frequently than my video card. I spent
more on my last video card than I spent on my last mainboard.

Please pick any mainboard with built-in video and point
to comparisons to video cards. I have never seen or even heard of a
review like that.

It might be an interesting subject, IMO, if it made sense. If it
were true that mainboard video compares with videocard video, that's
what I would base my mainboard choices on. They don't make them that
way probably because the vast majority of users (wordprocessing,
financing, and Internet browsing) don't need high-end graphics.






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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:55 pm
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And isn't cost effective either. There is just no sense what so ever to
add 300-400$ worth of graphics capabilities to a motherboard (which is
about the average price for a high-end gfx, not the most high-end
though). Who in their right mind would buy one...

>
> It might be an interesting subject, IMO, if it made sense. If it
> were true that mainboard video compares with videocard video, that's
> what I would base my mainboard choices on. They don't make them that
> way probably because the vast majority of users (wordprocessing,
> financing, and Internet browsing) don't need high-end graphics.
>
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