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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:24 pm
Post subject: start up msg "error loading OS"
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Guys, I have a question for you
I built my first computer a few months back. But last night I tried to
overclock it. I had have an MSI platinum with an +3800 AM2 and Corsar
DDR2 800-6400 (5-5-5-12). I used the CoreMaster program and found that
my computer was stable to about 2.34 GHz. After that I went to the BIOS
and changed the Bus to 210. I saved the settings and tried to boot...
no luck...unstable. So I have a crash-free bios and restored the fail
proof start up option, restoring all the defaults. Now I get the
following message "error loading OS". Can I just reinstall
windows? (I would rather not do this) Are there any tricks you guys
know of to get this working? Do you guys think I fried some of my
hardware?
Thanks,
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:46 am
Post subject: Re: start up msg "error loading OS" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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bnkkn wrote:
> Guys, I have a question for you
>
> I built my first computer a few months back. But last night I tried to
> overclock it. I had have an MSI platinum with an +3800 AM2 and Corsar
> DDR2 800-6400 (5-5-5-12). I used the CoreMaster program and found that
> my computer was stable to about 2.34 GHz. After that I went to the BIOS
> and changed the Bus to 210. I saved the settings and tried to boot...
> no luck...unstable. So I have a crash-free bios and restored the fail
> proof start up option, restoring all the defaults. Now I get the
> following message "error loading OS". Can I just reinstall
> windows? (I would rather not do this) Are there any tricks you guys
> know of to get this working? Do you guys think I fried some of my
> hardware?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben
>
What interface do your disks connect to ? Is something disabled
in the BIOS ? Check your BIOS settings, and make sure everything
is set back to the way it was.
When you have an overclocking failure, some motherboard products
will reset pretty reliably, if you remove power to them. Like
unplug, then try again.
The second level of recovery, is to use the "Clear CMOS" jumper.
Only if you have done those two procedures, should you bother
with any other kind of recovery procedure. For example,
reflashing your BIOS should not be required.
As for the getting the OS to load, when you installed the OS,
certain interfaces on your motherboard were enabled. Perhaps
they were set in RAID mode or ordinary IDE mode. You may have
installed a driver via F6 at the time. If a setting changes in
the BIOS (due to clearing the CMOS for example), then the hardware
definition of your system, no longer matches how the OS was set
up. That is the most likely reason for it not booting again.
When overclocking a system, experienced overclockers use a
"sacrificial" boot disk. You take a spare disk, and connect only
that disk to the system. Do your overclock, and use that disk
for booting. If the overclock causes disk corruption (which
happens sometimes), then you've only lost that disk, and not
your real disk.
I use a Knoppix read-only boot CD. I don't need any hard drive
at all, to use Knoppix (knopper.net). I can also get a Linux
version of Prime95 (mersenne.org), for testing computer
stability. Once I've finished my overclocking experiments, and
proved my hardware is "Prime stable" at a modest overclock, then
I can go back to booting Windows. The ISO image for Knoppix is
a 700MB or so download. I had to get a new burner, to burn it,
because my previous burner couldn't even do a 700MB image.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:46 am
Post subject: Re: start up msg "error loading OS" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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To add a couple of things to Paul's post,
1. After clearing the cmos, go into the bios and set them to defaults --
there will be choice such as optimal defaults, or safe defaults.
2. Instead of a sacrificial hard drive you can use bootitng to shrink your
C: partition and create a 2nd sacrificial boot partition. It can be a copy
of C: or a fresh install.
I have my C: at 15 gigs and my data in other partitions. When I want to
experiment I copy C: to free space, boot that, and let it slowly become
messed up.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 8:12 pm
Post subject: Re: start up msg "error loading OS" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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bnkkn wrote:
> Guys, I have a question for you
>
> I built my first computer a few months back. But last night I tried to
> overclock it. I had have an MSI platinum with an +3800 AM2 and Corsar
> DDR2 800-6400 (5-5-5-12). I used the CoreMaster program and found that
> my computer was stable to about 2.34 GHz. After that I went to the BIOS
> and changed the Bus to 210. I saved the settings and tried to boot...
> no luck...unstable. So I have a crash-free bios and restored the fail
> proof start up option, restoring all the defaults. Now I get the
> following message "error loading OS". Can I just reinstall
> windows? (I would rather not do this) Are there any tricks you guys
> know of to get this working? Do you guys think I fried some of my
> hardware?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben
Okay guys, here is all little update.
The problem was easy and i should and have caught it sooner... i had
two hard drives and after i reset my BIOS settings, the boot sequence
in my BIOS defaulted to my storage drive, not the one with windows (i
feel like an idiot). I was just so scared and i panicked. I was sure
that I messed up my computer when i tried to overclock it for the first
time. It seems to be working okay now tho, except it says that it cant
detect any mouse when booting up yet, i ignore this error and proceed
with the bootup and the mouse works fine when its up and running.
Thanks for the help >> Stay informed about: start up msg "error loading OS" |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:42 pm
Post subject: Re: start up msg "error loading OS" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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'bnkkn' wrote:
| I built my first computer a few months back. But last night I tried to
| overclock it. I had have an MSI platinum with an +3800 AM2 and Corsar
| DDR2 800-6400 (5-5-5-12). I used the CoreMaster program and found that
| my computer was stable to about 2.34 GHz. After that I went to the BIOS
| and changed the Bus to 210. I saved the settings and tried to boot...
| no luck...unstable. So I have a crash-free bios and restored the fail
| proof start up option, restoring all the defaults. Now I get the
| following message "error loading OS". Can I just reinstall
| windows? (I would rather not do this) Are there any tricks you guys
| know of to get this working? Do you guys think I fried some of my
| hardware?
_____
I assume that your operating system is Windows XP.
The simplest cause of your problem would be corruption of one or more of the
files necessary to load the operating system. The chance that you have
'fried' any hardware is vanishingly small since you have a new AMD CPU; and
certainly you have NOT 'fried' any hardware since you can POST and begin to
load Windows, something that would not be possible if you had 'fried' any
hardware that would be involved in loading the operating system.
IF what you described as 'I saved the settings and tried to boot...no
luck...unstable.' means Windows loaded and then crashed, it could be that
somehow you used the wrong PCI bus speed and corrupt data was written to the
boot drive. The normal, and very easy corrective is to use the Windows XP
repair console to fix the damage, and if that fails, do a repair
installation of Windows XP (which does not affect data files nor OS
settings, though data backup is still good practice.) Then be sure to
reread your manual and make sure you know how to maintain the correct PCI
bus speed when overclocking.
Phil Weldon
"bnkkn" <bkuiken DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163481888.037857.143190@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
| Guys, I have a question for you
|
| I built my first computer a few months back. But last night I tried to
| overclock it. I had have an MSI platinum with an +3800 AM2 and Corsar
| DDR2 800-6400 (5-5-5-12). I used the CoreMaster program and found that
| my computer was stable to about 2.34 GHz. After that I went to the BIOS
| and changed the Bus to 210. I saved the settings and tried to boot...
| no luck...unstable. So I have a crash-free bios and restored the fail
| proof start up option, restoring all the defaults. Now I get the
| following message "error loading OS". Can I just reinstall
| windows? (I would rather not do this) Are there any tricks you guys
| know of to get this working? Do you guys think I fried some of my
| hardware?
|
| Thanks,
|
| Ben
| >> Stay informed about: start up msg "error loading OS" |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:50 pm
Post subject: Re: start up msg "error loading OS" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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'Paul' wrote, in part:
| What interface do your disks connect to ? Is something disabled
| in the BIOS ? Check your BIOS settings, and make sure everything
| is set back to the way it was.
..
..
..
_____
You are making this more complicated than necessary, and ignoring the very
definitive clue given by the message 'error loading OS.' The problem is
nearly certain to be a corruption of files on the boot disk that are
necessary to fully load the operating system. The message reported also is
an indication that the hardware is operating correctly, since that message
must have been generated during some stage of OS load. This eliminates the
applicability of most, if not all, of your suggestions.
Phil Weldon
"Paul" <nospam.DeleteThis@needed.com> wrote in message
news:ejbkkt$u6$1@aioe.server.aioe.org...
| bnkkn wrote:
| > Guys, I have a question for you
| >
| > I built my first computer a few months back. But last night I tried to
| > overclock it. I had have an MSI platinum with an +3800 AM2 and Corsar
| > DDR2 800-6400 (5-5-5-12). I used the CoreMaster program and found that
| > my computer was stable to about 2.34 GHz. After that I went to the BIOS
| > and changed the Bus to 210. I saved the settings and tried to boot...
| > no luck...unstable. So I have a crash-free bios and restored the fail
| > proof start up option, restoring all the defaults. Now I get the
| > following message "error loading OS". Can I just reinstall
| > windows? (I would rather not do this) Are there any tricks you guys
| > know of to get this working? Do you guys think I fried some of my
| > hardware?
| >
| > Thanks,
| >
| > Ben
| >
|
| What interface do your disks connect to ? Is something disabled
| in the BIOS ? Check your BIOS settings, and make sure everything
| is set back to the way it was.
|
| When you have an overclocking failure, some motherboard products
| will reset pretty reliably, if you remove power to them. Like
| unplug, then try again.
|
| The second level of recovery, is to use the "Clear CMOS" jumper.
|
| Only if you have done those two procedures, should you bother
| with any other kind of recovery procedure. For example,
| reflashing your BIOS should not be required.
|
| As for the getting the OS to load, when you installed the OS,
| certain interfaces on your motherboard were enabled. Perhaps
| they were set in RAID mode or ordinary IDE mode. You may have
| installed a driver via F6 at the time. If a setting changes in
| the BIOS (due to clearing the CMOS for example), then the hardware
| definition of your system, no longer matches how the OS was set
| up. That is the most likely reason for it not booting again.
|
| When overclocking a system, experienced overclockers use a
| "sacrificial" boot disk. You take a spare disk, and connect only
| that disk to the system. Do your overclock, and use that disk
| for booting. If the overclock causes disk corruption (which
| happens sometimes), then you've only lost that disk, and not
| your real disk.
|
| I use a Knoppix read-only boot CD. I don't need any hard drive
| at all, to use Knoppix (knopper.net). I can also get a Linux
| version of Prime95 (mersenne.org), for testing computer
| stability. Once I've finished my overclocking experiments, and
| proved my hardware is "Prime stable" at a modest overclock, then
| I can go back to booting Windows. The ISO image for Knoppix is
| a 700MB or so download. I had to get a new burner, to burn it,
| because my previous burner couldn't even do a 700MB image.
|
| Paul >> Stay informed about: start up msg "error loading OS" |
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:50 pm
Post subject: Re: start up msg "error loading OS" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed.TakeThisOut@example.com> wrote in message
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> 'Paul' wrote, in part:
> | What interface do your disks connect to ? Is something disabled
> | in the BIOS ? Check your BIOS settings, and make sure everything
> | is set back to the way it was.
> .
> .
> .
> _____
>
> You are making this more complicated than necessary, and ignoring the very
> definitive clue given by the message 'error loading OS.' The problem is
> nearly certain to be a corruption of files on the boot disk that are
> necessary to fully load the operating system. The message reported also
> is
> an indication that the hardware is operating correctly, since that message
> must have been generated during some stage of OS load. This eliminates
> the
> applicability of most, if not all, of your suggestions.
What if it was set on APIC and wound up on PIC, or vice versa?
What if it had manual settings for ports and wound up on auto?
--
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http://bringthemhomenow.org
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:30 am
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'Ed Light' wrote:
| What if it was set on APIC and wound up on PIC, or vice versa?
| What if it had manual settings for ports and wound up on auto?
Neither of your suggestions would result in the a message like 'error
loading OS'. Granted the original poster should specify the EXACT error
message. The key to efficient trouble-shooting is knowing what to eliminate
as possible causes.
Phil Weldon
"Ed Light" <nobody DeleteThis @nobody.there> wrote in message
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| "Phil Weldon" <notdiscosed DeleteThis @example.com> wrote in message
| news:EKr6h.6246$l25.3414@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
| > 'Paul' wrote, in part:
| > | What interface do your disks connect to ? Is something disabled
| > | in the BIOS ? Check your BIOS settings, and make sure everything
| > | is set back to the way it was.
| > .
| > .
| > .
| > _____
| >
| > You are making this more complicated than necessary, and ignoring the
very
| > definitive clue given by the message 'error loading OS.' The problem is
| > nearly certain to be a corruption of files on the boot disk that are
| > necessary to fully load the operating system. The message reported also
| > is
| > an indication that the hardware is operating correctly, since that
message
| > must have been generated during some stage of OS load. This eliminates
| > the
| > applicability of most, if not all, of your suggestions.
|
| What if it was set on APIC and wound up on PIC, or vice versa?
| What if it had manual settings for ports and wound up on auto?
|
| --
| Ed Light
|
| Bring the Troops Home:
| http://bringthemhomenow.org
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| Send spam to the FTC at
| spam DeleteThis @uce.gov
| Thanks, robots.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 4:40 am
Post subject: Re: start up msg "error loading OS" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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'bnkkn' wrote:
| Okay guys, here is all little update.
|
| The problem was easy and i should and have caught it sooner... i had
| two hard drives and after i reset my BIOS settings, the boot sequence
| in my BIOS defaulted to my storage drive, not the one with windows (i
| feel like an idiot). I was just so scared and i panicked. I was sure
| that I messed up my computer when i tried to overclock it for the first
| time. It seems to be working okay now tho, except it says that it cant
| detect any mouse when booting up yet, i ignore this error and proceed
| with the bootup and the mouse works fine when its up and running.
|
| Thanks for the help
_____
|Thanks for the update - it is very helpful for everyone when you post
follow-up information.
Now that you have corrected your on problem, the lingering mouse setting
problem should be easy for you.
Another lesson; there is nothing so hard to get rid of as jumped conclusions
or ideas whose time has passed.
Taking into account the physicians' 'First do no harm', resetting the BIOS
was a bit too aggressive for backing off the unstable overclock.
Good luck on your further tries; keep in mind that with your current CPU,
only choosing a too high core voltage can cause physical damage to a
component (and that would be immediate destruction of your CPU.) So
experiment to your hearts content but keep better records B^)
Phil Weldon
"bnkkn" <bkuiken.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1163563957.257815.36580@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
|
| bnkkn wrote:
| > Guys, I have a question for you
| >
| > I built my first computer a few months back. But last night I tried to
| > overclock it. I had have an MSI platinum with an +3800 AM2 and Corsar
| > DDR2 800-6400 (5-5-5-12). I used the CoreMaster program and found that
| > my computer was stable to about 2.34 GHz. After that I went to the BIOS
| > and changed the Bus to 210. I saved the settings and tried to boot...
| > no luck...unstable. So I have a crash-free bios and restored the fail
| > proof start up option, restoring all the defaults. Now I get the
| > following message "error loading OS". Can I just reinstall
| > windows? (I would rather not do this) Are there any tricks you guys
| > know of to get this working? Do you guys think I fried some of my
| > hardware?
| >
| > Thanks,
| >
| > Ben
|
|
|
| Okay guys, here is all little update.
|
| The problem was easy and i should and have caught it sooner... i had
| two hard drives and after i reset my BIOS settings, the boot sequence
| in my BIOS defaulted to my storage drive, not the one with windows (i
| feel like an idiot). I was just so scared and i panicked. I was sure
| that I messed up my computer when i tried to overclock it for the first
| time. It seems to be working okay now tho, except it says that it cant
| detect any mouse when booting up yet, i ignore this error and proceed
| with the bootup and the mouse works fine when its up and running.
|
| Thanks for the help
| >> Stay informed about: start up msg "error loading OS" |
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 12:42 am
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This happened to a friend of mine
i built his new computer for him, and he refused to tell me what he
did that screwed it up
he was recieving the same message "error loading OS"
he prob didnt realize it and thought porn screwed up his computer so
he wouldnt tell me what he did, he just said it stoped working
ofcourse h paniced and was ready to reformat, but when i got there to
check it out i simply noticed his SATA harddrives were switched
his storage HD was switched with his OS raptor harddrive
I switched them back and Windows started up, but it would cut off at
the loading screen
i rememebed the same problem happening when i installed the OS way
back when, so i checked the BIOS settings and chaged the SATA
settings to a lower simpler setting, and it worked.
after i fixed it i noticed he changed his boot screen to a customized
one instead of the default and his login screen was changed to, so
this is what caused the problem
seeing his cool new boot screens, i decided to update mine, because it
was gettig old
everything was working fine on my computer, but after 4 restarts or so
i recieved the same problem
i tried doing the same thing i did with his computer, but my computer
was older, and it wasnt SATA, and my BIOS didnt have the same
advanced settings his did
refusing to reformat i just reset my CMOS by opening up my computer
and reseting it through the 3 prong on my motherboard(located near
the battery), manually.
it worked...
so bottom line just reset your CMOS manually, and dont panic and
reformat
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 2:05 pm
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> |Thanks for the update - it is very helpful for everyone when you post
> follow-up information.
> Now that you have corrected your on problem, the lingering mouse setting
> problem should be easy for you.
> Another lesson; there is nothing so hard to get rid of as jumped
> conclusions
> or ideas whose time has passed.
> Taking into account the physicians' 'First do no harm', resetting the BIOS
> was a bit too aggressive for backing off the unstable overclock.
>
> Good luck on your further tries; keep in mind that with your current CPU,
> only choosing a too high core voltage can cause physical damage to a
> component (and that would be immediate destruction of your CPU.) So
> experiment to your hearts content but keep better records B^)
>
> Phil Weldon
>
I wish everyone would post when they do find the 'fix' for their
problems, no matter how easy or tough the fix was. I have done the same
thing he did and on one recent incident I messed around for an hour before I
looked at the boot sequence in the bios.....  . I had done some
housecleaning on this system and I have a couple of TBs of HDD space in Raid
arrays (video editing etc.) and for some reason the bios determined I was
booting from one of my video storage arrays....... . Changing it back and
doing a fixmbr and fixboot cleared it up quite nicely.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:01 pm
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Greetings,
ISO-burner is a really useful utiliy. It is extremely easy to use, free
and still never failed me. The tool is small so you can give it a
glance right now
http://www.ntfs.com/iso-burning.htm
Ed Medlin wrote:
> > |Thanks for the update - it is very helpful for everyone when you post
> > follow-up information.
> > Now that you have corrected your on problem, the lingering mouse setting
> > problem should be easy for you.
> > Another lesson; there is nothing so hard to get rid of as jumped
> > conclusions
> > or ideas whose time has passed.
> > Taking into account the physicians' 'First do no harm', resetting the BIOS
> > was a bit too aggressive for backing off the unstable overclock.
> >
> > Good luck on your further tries; keep in mind that with your current CPU,
> > only choosing a too high core voltage can cause physical damage to a
> > component (and that would be immediate destruction of your CPU.) So
> > experiment to your hearts content but keep better records B^)
> >
> > Phil Weldon
> >
>
> I wish everyone would post when they do find the 'fix' for their
> problems, no matter how easy or tough the fix was. I have done the same
> thing he did and on one recent incident I messed around for an hour before I
> looked at the boot sequence in the bios...... I had done some
> housecleaning on this system and I have a couple of TBs of HDD space in Raid
> arrays (video editing etc.) and for some reason the bios determined I was
> booting from one of my video storage arrays........ Changing it back and
> doing a fixmbr and fixboot cleared it up quite nicely.
>
> Ed >> Stay informed about: start up msg "error loading OS" |
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