updating Win XP with new mobo/SATA drivers?

On Dec 6, 10:02 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> mechphi... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> > I have a PC with Win XP Pro, and we just got a new motherboard for it.
> > It has one IDE drive, and one SATA drive, which has the OS on it.
> > Booting into Windows, it barely gets started into the booting and it
> > reboots itself. Same with Safe Mode.
> > I figure it has something to do with the SATA drivers.
> > If I boot from the Win CD, and I provide it with SATA/RAID drivers
> > (from the F6 option,) it reads the drive fine and I have an option of
> > repairing the OS.
> > But in my experience, repairing the OS means a reinstallation and
> > reload of all programs.
>
> No it doesnt, it just uses the drivers appropriate to the new motherboard
> and keeps the settings and installed programs and data.
>
> > Is there an easier, or at least less reinstall Windows,
> > way of getting Windows to boot with new drivers?
>
> The repair install is the way to do that.

OK, thanks for the reply, and the info! =)
Much appreciated.
-Liam
 >> Stay informed about: updating Win XP with new mobo/SATA drivers? 

mechphisto wrote:
> I have a PC with Win XP Pro, and we just got a new motherboard for
> it. It has one IDE drive, and one SATA drive, which has the OS on
> it. Booting into Windows, it barely gets started into the booting
> and it reboots itself. Same with Safe Mode.
> I figure it has something to do with the SATA drivers.
> If I boot from the Win CD, and I provide it with SATA/RAID drivers
> (from the F6 option,) it reads the drive fine and I have an option
> of repairing the OS.
> But in my experience, repairing the OS means a reinstallation and
> reload of all programs.
>
> Is there an easier, or at least less reinstall Windows, way of
> getting Windows to boot with new drivers?

Check for the SATA driver first. You'll need a Windows XP CD, the SATA
driver on a floppy diskette and a floppy diskette drive connected to the
machine in some fashion. You'll boot up off your Windows XP CD, your press
F6 to load the SATA driver, you'll continue and perform what is known as a
'Repair Installation'...

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341

Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update,
from Microsoft Update, or by using Automatic Updates after
you repair a Windows XP installation
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 >> Stay informed about: updating Win XP with new mobo/SATA drivers? 

On Dec 7, 7:21 am, "Shenan Stanley" <newshel....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> mechphisto wrote:
> > I have a PC with Win XP Pro, and we just got a new motherboard for
> > it. It has one IDE drive, and one SATA drive, which has the OS on
> > it. Booting into Windows, it barely gets started into the booting
> > and it reboots itself. Same with Safe Mode.
> > I figure it has something to do with the SATA drivers.
> > If I boot from the Win CD, and I provide it with SATA/RAID drivers
> > (from the F6 option,) it reads the drive fine and I have an option
> > of repairing the OS.
> > But in my experience, repairing the OS means a reinstallation and
> > reload of all programs.
>
> > Is there an easier, or at least less reinstall Windows, way of
> > getting Windows to boot with new drivers?
> Shenan Stanley wrote:
> > Check for the SATA driver first. You'll need a Windows XP CD, the
> > SATA driver on a floppy diskette and a floppy diskette drive
> > connected to the machine in some fashion. You'll boot up off your
> > Windows XP CD, your press F6 to load the SATA driver, you'll
> > continue and perform what is known as a 'Repair Installation'...
>
> > How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
> > http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
>
> > How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341
>
> > Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update,
> > from Microsoft Update, or by using Automatic Updates after
> > you repair a Windows XP
> > installation
>
> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144
>
> mechphisto wrote:
> > OK, so is this a cut-n-paste way of saying no, there is no way to
> > update the SATA drivers without "repairing" or reinstalling Windows,
> > as I described before?
> > Thanks for the info.
>
> I assumed that if you had done the research - you would have known all of
> this. Since you asked - I assumed you didn't do the research so I gave the
> the facts (and everyone else who bothered to search in the future before
> asking.)
>
> It's not the first time the question about changing hardware in a machine
> has come up. It's a cut-n-paste answer because it *is* the answer and any
> amount of research would have given that answer.

OK, well, I followed the instructions for repair (by NOT using the
repair console and instead going in as if doing an install.) But the
repair option is not available in that direction.
So, I followed the instructions to use the repair console...but when
it asks for an Administrator password, it won't accept anything we try
(including nothing at all.)

Is there some way to get around or reset the password?
We're kind of dead in the water on this machine unless we can get past
that.
(Well, except for an OS reinstallation--but we want to avoid that.)

Thanks,
Liam
 >> Stay informed about: updating Win XP with new mobo/SATA drivers? 

mechphisto wrote:
> I have a PC with Win XP Pro, and we just got a new motherboard for
> it. It has one IDE drive, and one SATA drive, which has the OS on
> it. Booting into Windows, it barely gets started into the booting
> and it reboots itself. Same with Safe Mode.
> I figure it has something to do with the SATA drivers.
> If I boot from the Win CD, and I provide it with SATA/RAID drivers
> (from the F6 option,) it reads the drive fine and I have an option
> of repairing the OS.
> But in my experience, repairing the OS means a reinstallation and
> reload of all programs.
>
> Is there an easier, or at least less reinstall Windows, way of
> getting Windows to boot with new drivers?

Shenan Stanley wrote:
> Check for the SATA driver first. You'll need a Windows XP CD, the
> SATA driver on a floppy diskette and a floppy diskette drive
> connected to the machine in some fashion. You'll boot up off your
> Windows XP CD, your press F6 to load the SATA driver, you'll
> continue and perform what is known as a 'Repair Installation'...
>
> How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
>
> How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341
>
> Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update,
> from Microsoft Update, or by using Automatic Updates after
> you repair a Windows XP
> installation
< http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144

mechphisto wrote:
> OK, so is this a cut-n-paste way of saying no, there is no way to
> update the SATA drivers without "repairing" or reinstalling Windows,
> as I described before?
> Thanks for the info.

I assumed that if you had done the research - you would have known all of
this. Since you asked - I assumed you didn't do the research so I gave the
the facts (and everyone else who bothered to search in the future before
asking.)

It's not the first time the question about changing hardware in a machine
has come up. It's a cut-n-paste answer because it *is* the answer and any
amount of research would have given that answer.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 >> Stay informed about: updating Win XP with new mobo/SATA drivers? 

On Dec 7, 10:04 am, "Patrick Keenan" <t....RemoveThis@dev.null> wrote:
> <mechphi....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:684b6ced-324a-42e5-96cb-f83ab9db2cca@r60g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >I have a PC with Win XP Pro, and we just got a new motherboard for it.
> > It has one IDE drive, and one SATA drive, which has the OS on it.
> > Booting into Windows, it barely gets started into the booting and it
> > reboots itself. Same with Safe Mode.
> > I figure it has something to do with the SATA drivers.
>
> It has to do with the fact that it's different motherboard and the device
> drivers are no longer valis.
>
> You need to do a repair install.
>
> > If I boot from the Win CD, and I provide it with SATA/RAID drivers
> > (from the F6 option,) it reads the drive fine and I have an option of
> > repairing the OS.
>
> It's what you need to do.
>
> > But in my experience, repairing the OS means a reinstallation and
> > reload of all programs.
>
> Repair installs do not do this. They use most of the existing registry.
>
> > Is there an easier, or at least less reinstall Windows, way of getting
> > Windows to boot with new drivers?
>
> You have to do the repair install, and then install the new core motherboard
> drivers, tehn device drivers, then get the 80+ Windows updates that are
> post-SP2.
>
> Back up your data first.
>
> HTH
> -pk

Thanks for the reply and info.
But like I replied to another poster on the thread, I don't have a
Repair option in the Install path of the CD boot, and the Repair
console asks for an Admin password we don't have.
So, we may have no choice but do a complete Windows reinstallation.
Trying to avoid that if at all possible.
Thanks for the reply!
-Liam
 >> Stay informed about: updating Win XP with new mobo/SATA drivers? 

<mechphisto.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:684b6ced-324a-42e5-96cb-f83ab9db2cca@r60g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>I have a PC with Win XP Pro, and we just got a new motherboard for it.
> It has one IDE drive, and one SATA drive, which has the OS on it.
> Booting into Windows, it barely gets started into the booting and it
> reboots itself. Same with Safe Mode.
> I figure it has something to do with the SATA drivers.

It has to do with the fact that it's different motherboard and the device
drivers are no longer valis.

You need to do a repair install.

> If I boot from the Win CD, and I provide it with SATA/RAID drivers
> (from the F6 option,) it reads the drive fine and I have an option of
> repairing the OS.

It's what you need to do.

> But in my experience, repairing the OS means a reinstallation and
> reload of all programs.

Repair installs do not do this. They use most of the existing registry.

> Is there an easier, or at least less reinstall Windows, way of getting
> Windows to boot with new drivers?

You have to do the repair install, and then install the new core motherboard
drivers, tehn device drivers, then get the 80+ Windows updates that are
post-SP2.

Back up your data first.

HTH
-pk


> Thanks!
> -Liam
 >> Stay informed about: updating Win XP with new mobo/SATA drivers? 

mechphisto.DeleteThis@gmail.com wrote:
> I have a PC with Win XP Pro, and we just got a new motherboard for it.
> It has one IDE drive, and one SATA drive, which has the OS on it.
> Booting into Windows, it barely gets started into the booting and it
> reboots itself. Same with Safe Mode.
> I figure it has something to do with the SATA drivers.
> If I boot from the Win CD, and I provide it with SATA/RAID drivers
> (from the F6 option,) it reads the drive fine and I have an option of
> repairing the OS.

> But in my experience, repairing the OS means a reinstallation and
> reload of all programs.

No it doesnt, it just uses the drivers appropriate to the new motherboard
and keeps the settings and installed programs and data.

> Is there an easier, or at least less reinstall Windows,
> way of getting Windows to boot with new drivers?

The repair install is the way to do that.
 >> Stay informed about: updating Win XP with new mobo/SATA drivers? 

<mechphisto DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b0a68d94-a7d4-4dc3-8d55-d96c764391ef@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 7, 10:04 am, "Patrick Keenan" <t... DeleteThis @dev.null> wrote:
>> <mechphi... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
BIG SNIP
>
> Thanks for the reply and info.
> But like I replied to another poster on the thread, I don't have a
> Repair option in the Install path of the CD boot, and the Repair
> console asks for an Admin password we don't have.
> So, we may have no choice but do a complete Windows reinstallation.
> Trying to avoid that if at all possible.
> Thanks for the reply!
> -Liam

I think you probably have an OEM version of XP which will only allow a full
installation to an empty partition and does not offer the option to repair
an existing install. Although as you have found it does offer the recovery
console option.

So it seems like your only option would be a full clean re-install.

You should backup any data you need to keep first as the OEM will require an
empty partition.

And in my experience a clean reinstall is more reliable anyway as it doesnt
inherit any gremlins that a repair install most likely would.

HTH

Ian
 >> Stay informed about: updating Win XP with new mobo/SATA drivers? 

mechphisto.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> On Dec 7, 7:21 am, "Shenan Stanley" <newshel....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> mechphisto wrote:
>>> I have a PC with Win XP Pro, and we just got a new motherboard for
>>> it. It has one IDE drive, and one SATA drive, which has the OS on
>>> it. Booting into Windows, it barely gets started into the booting
>>> and it reboots itself. Same with Safe Mode.
>>> I figure it has something to do with the SATA drivers.
>>> If I boot from the Win CD, and I provide it with SATA/RAID drivers
>>> (from the F6 option,) it reads the drive fine and I have an option
>>> of repairing the OS.
>>> But in my experience, repairing the OS means a reinstallation and
>>> reload of all programs.
>>
>>> Is there an easier, or at least less reinstall Windows, way of
>>> getting Windows to boot with new drivers?
>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>> Check for the SATA driver first. You'll need a Windows XP CD, the
>>> SATA driver on a floppy diskette and a floppy diskette drive
>>> connected to the machine in some fashion. You'll boot up off your
>>> Windows XP CD, your press F6 to load the SATA driver, you'll
>>> continue and perform what is known as a 'Repair Installation'...
>>
>>> How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
>>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
>>
>>> How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315341
>>
>>> Updates are not installed successfully from Windows Update,
>>> from Microsoft Update, or by using Automatic Updates after
>>> you repair a Windows XP
>>> installation
>>
>> <http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943144
>>
>> mechphisto wrote:
>>> OK, so is this a cut-n-paste way of saying no, there is no way to
>>> update the SATA drivers without "repairing" or reinstalling Windows,
>>> as I described before?
>>> Thanks for the info.
>>
>> I assumed that if you had done the research - you would have known
>> all of this. Since you asked - I assumed you didn't do the research
>> so I gave the the facts (and everyone else who bothered to search in
>> the future before asking.)
>>
>> It's not the first time the question about changing hardware in a
>> machine has come up. It's a cut-n-paste answer because it *is* the
>> answer and any amount of research would have given that answer.
>
> OK, well, I followed the instructions for repair (by NOT using the
> repair console and instead going in as if doing an install.) But the
> repair option is not available in that direction.

Yes it is. You just operate as if you are doing a clean install, and tell it
to install it where its already installed, and DONT format the partition,
and it will say that its found an existing install and will offer to repair that.
Accept that offer and it will repair the existing install.

> So, I followed the instructions to use the repair console...

That wont do what you want.

> but when it asks for an Administrator password,
> it won't accept anything we try (including nothing at all.)

> Is there some way to get around or reset the password?
> We're kind of dead in the water on this machine unless we can get past that.
> (Well, except for an OS reinstallation--but we want to avoid that.)

Just do as I say above.
 >> Stay informed about: updating Win XP with new mobo/SATA drivers?