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dterrors

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:54 pm
Post subject: is a usb 2 flash drive faster than any IDE drive?
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Am I better off installing windows on a 4GB usb 2.0 flash drive than I
am installing it on (any) IDE drive? I heard they're 3x faster than
HDD.

If so, which 4gb+ usb 2 drives are the fastest?

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Timothy Daniels

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:19 am
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<dterrors.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Am I better off installing windows on a 4GB usb 2.0 flash drive than I
> am installing it on (any) IDE drive? I heard they're 3x faster than
> HDD.


USB 2.0 bulk transfer rate is about 40MBps and ATA/133
on a 7,200 rpm drive has a sustained transfer rate that can be
twice that. Furthermore, installing a Windows OS in flash
memory and getting it to boot is still a trick - one that you
probably can't do. Just put it on a hard drive and be happy.

*TimDaniels*

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Rod Speed

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:55 am
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dterrors.RemoveThis@hotmail.com wrote:

> Am I better off installing windows on a 4GB usb 2.0
> flash drive than I am installing it on (any) IDE drive?
> I heard they're 3x faster than HDD.

One very fundamental problem with this approach
is that most flash drives cant do that many writes.

> If so, which 4gb+ usb 2 drives are the fastest?

Why does the speed matter to you ?
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Peter3

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:05 am
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> I heard they're 3x faster than HDD.

It is a myth. Most of them are many times slower.
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Arno Wagner

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:55 am
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Previously dterrors.DeleteThis@hotmail.com wrote:

> Am I better off installing windows on a 4GB usb 2.0 flash drive than I
> am installing it on (any) IDE drive? I heard they're 3x faster than
> HDD.

> If so, which 4gb+ usb 2 drives are the fastest?

Unless you use a IDE flash disk built for speed, you get much lower
trannfer rates and only somewhat better access times. USB flash
is pretty slow. Fast IDE flash is _very_ expensive.

Arno
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Folkert Rienstra

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:55 pm
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"Timothy Daniels" <TDaniels DeleteThis @NoSpamDot.com> wrote in message news:n7mdneuSSPposdLZnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@comcast.com
> <dterrors DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Am I better off installing windows on a 4GB usb 2.0 flash drive than I
> > am installing it on (any) IDE drive? I heard they're 3x faster than HDD.
>

> USB 2.0 bulk transfer rate is about 40MBps and ATA/133 on a
> 7,200 rpm drive has a sustained transfer rate that can be twice that.

Pity then that's not how the OS is accessing it.
Random access on a HD is about 1/10th the sustained transfer rate.

> Furthermore, installing a Windows OS in flash
> memory and getting it to boot is still a trick - one that you
> probably can't do. Just put it on a hard drive and be happy.
>
> *TimDaniels*
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Timothy Daniels

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:55 pm
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"Folkert Rienstra" (Rod Speed's left hand) wrote:
> "Timothy Daniels" wrote:
>> USB 2.0 bulk transfer rate is about 40MBps and ATA/133
>> on a 7,200 rpm drive has a sustained transfer rate that can
>> be twice that.
>
> Pity then that's not how the OS is accessing it.
> Random access on a HD is about 1/10th the sustained transfer
> rate.


Tell us "Folkert", how does one measure the average
percentage of time that a HD is doing "random access"
as opposed to doing sustained transfer?

*TimDaniels*
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Rod Speed

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 2:55 pm
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Timothy Daniels <TDaniels RemoveThis @NoSpamDot.com> wrote:
> Folkert Rienstra (Rod Speed's left hand) wrote

Presumably you actually are that stupid.
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Timothy Daniels

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 3:55 pm
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"Rod Speed" can use his right hand again:
> Timothy Daniels wrote:
>> Folkert Rienstra (Rod Speed's left hand) wrote
>
> Presumably you actually are that stupid.


Blisters on your right hand, Roddles? Smile

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:55 pm
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Timothy Daniels <TDaniels.TakeThisOut@NoSpamDot.com> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" can use his right hand again:
>> Timothy Daniels wrote:
>>> Folkert Rienstra (Rod Speed's left hand) wrote
>>
>> Presumably you actually are that stupid.
>
>
> Blisters on your right hand, Roddles? Smile

You're the one wanking yourself blind, child.
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