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Quad_Damage

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:33 am
Post subject: x1950pro vs HD2600xt DDR4
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hello!

i plan to buy a new videocard - x1950pro or HD2600xt.
does HD2600xt really have better performance over X1950pro?

thank you!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:06 pm
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From what I understand, the HD2600XT really shines with Direct X10,
But the X1950 Pro will do better with Direct X 9.

"Quad_Damage" <qdamage DeleteThis @quake.org> wrote in message
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> hello!
>
> i plan to buy a new videocard - x1950pro or HD2600xt.
> does HD2600xt really have better performance over X1950pro?
>
> thank you!
>
>

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First of One

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:06 pm
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The HD2600XT is likely too slow for any DX10 games.
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTM2MCw3LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

And this is not something that will improve significantly with newer
drivers. The card is fundamentally slow; in terms of fill rate and memory
bandwidth the HD2600XT is comparable to an old X800XL, and quite a bit
slower than the X1950 Pro.
http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=88&pgno=1

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It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


"Frodo" <No_spam_I.RemoveThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> From what I understand, the HD2600XT really shines with Direct X10,
> But the X1950 Pro will do better with Direct X 9.
>
> "Quad_Damage" <qdamage.RemoveThis@quake.org> wrote in message
> news:f810h0$g5t$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>> hello!
>>
>> i plan to buy a new videocard - x1950pro or HD2600xt.
>> does HD2600xt really have better performance over X1950pro?
>>
>> thank you!
>>
>>
>
>
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Ken Maltby

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:40 pm
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> "Quad_Damage" <qdamage DeleteThis @quake.org> wrote in message
> news:f810h0$g5t$1@ss408.t-com.hr...
>> hello!
>>
>> i plan to buy a new videocard - x1950pro or HD2600xt.
>> does HD2600xt really have better performance over X1950pro?
>>
>> thank you!
>>
>>


"Frodo" <No_spam_I DeleteThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> From what I understand, the HD2600XT really shines with Direct X10,
> But the X1950 Pro will do better with Direct X 9.
>

The HD 2600XT is underpowered for DX10 gaming.

There are other features to consider if you want to work with HD or
compress SD using highly complex AVC/H.264 or VC-1. For that
kind of work, the new Avivo and PureVideo features can make a real
difference.

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,2151671,00.asp

Presents the $100-150 ATI cards that include the newest features.
While they support DX10 and newer shaders, I would not recommend
them for gaming. Their video accelerations look impressive though.

( I find it odd that the HD 2900XT still has the older version of
Avivo. )

Luck;
Ken
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First of One

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:07 pm
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The HD2900XT has a lot of features "broken" in the silicon, one of them
being the hardware FSAA resolver. UVD may be the other item. Marketing
pressures.

--
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It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."

"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> ( I find it odd that the HD 2900XT still has the older version of
> Avivo. )
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:07 pm
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I have been planning to upgrade to VISTA and a DX10 board just before
Christmas this year. When I purchased the system I now have, back in
November 06, I got a coupon for Vista with the XP SR2b, and a x1950pro. I'm
not happy with the reviews on VISTA or ATI's DX10 boards for games. The
specks on the HD2900 series is junk. Entry level at best. May have to wait
for a while longer than I thought.

From what I have been reading, Vista SR1 isn't going to be all that great
when it comes to video performance either. It looks like XP sr2b is going
to be the top-dog for a while longer in the gaming world. (I want HALO2 on
my XP!)

Maybe their is to much DRM in the system gumming up the inners. Maybe I'll
pull out the E6600 - Core 2 Dual and drop in a Core 2 Quad in its place for
Christmas. Maybe go to 4 gig (3.2g usable ) to go with XP.

William



"First of One" <root.RemoveThis@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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> The HD2900XT has a lot of features "broken" in the silicon, one of them
> being the hardware FSAA resolver. UVD may be the other item. Marketing
> pressures.
>
> --
> "War is the continuation of politics by other means.
> It can therefore be said that politics is war without
> bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
>
> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:DaidnQ6R44ME2jvbnZ2dnUVZ_oGjnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> ( I find it odd that the HD 2900XT still has the older version of
>> Avivo. )
>
>
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William

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:54 pm
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I've been thinking about this for a while. I'll take back the comment that
these series of boards are junk. They are not. They would do well in any
business computer that a company wants to add DX10 compatibility too, or a
computer that has on-board video that a person would like to upgrade to DX10
with investing little money. Their are needs for this type of entry-level
boards for the market. So I stand corrected. By myself.

Sorry for that comment.

William



"William" <nospam.RemoveThis@pacifier.com> wrote in message
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>I have been planning to upgrade to VISTA and a DX10 board just before
>Christmas this year. When I purchased the system I now have, back in
>November 06, I got a coupon for Vista with the XP SR2b, and a x1950pro.
>I'm not happy with the reviews on VISTA or ATI's DX10 boards for games.
>The specks on the HD2900 series is junk. Entry level at best. May have to
>wait for a while longer than I thought.
>
> From what I have been reading, Vista SR1 isn't going to be all that great
> when it comes to video performance either. It looks like XP sr2b is going
> to be the top-dog for a while longer in the gaming world. (I want HALO2 on
> my XP!)
>
> Maybe their is to much DRM in the system gumming up the inners. Maybe
> I'll pull out the E6600 - Core 2 Dual and drop in a Core 2 Quad in its
> place for Christmas. Maybe go to 4 gig (3.2g usable ) to go with XP.
>
> William
>
>
>
> "First of One" <root.RemoveThis@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
> news:Oamdndv9qvCzCTvbnZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> The HD2900XT has a lot of features "broken" in the silicon, one of them
>> being the hardware FSAA resolver. UVD may be the other item. Marketing
>> pressures.
>>
>> --
>> "War is the continuation of politics by other means.
>> It can therefore be said that politics is war without
>> bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
>>
>> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby.RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:DaidnQ6R44ME2jvbnZ2dnUVZ_oGjnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> ( I find it odd that the HD 2900XT still has the older version of
>>> Avivo. )
>>
>>
>
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:23 pm
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The question that ensues is: why would any business computer need DX10
compatibility?

Of course, with Acrobat 8 requiring Shader Model 3.0 to activate GPU
acceleration, maybe it's not so far-fetched...

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


"William" <nospam RemoveThis @pacifier.com> wrote in message
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> I've been thinking about this for a while. I'll take back the comment
> that these series of boards are junk. They are not. They would do well
> in any business computer that a company wants to add DX10 compatibility
> too, or a computer that has on-board video that a person would like to
> upgrade to DX10 with investing little money. Their are needs for this
> type of entry-level boards for the market. So I stand corrected. By
> myself.
>
> Sorry for that comment.
>
> William
>
>
>
> "William" <nospam RemoveThis @pacifier.com> wrote in message
> news:13adae8nej76l6f@corp.supernews.com...
>>I have been planning to upgrade to VISTA and a DX10 board just before
>>Christmas this year. When I purchased the system I now have, back in
>>November 06, I got a coupon for Vista with the XP SR2b, and a x1950pro.
>>I'm not happy with the reviews on VISTA or ATI's DX10 boards for games.
>>The specks on the HD2900 series is junk. Entry level at best. May have
>>to wait for a while longer than I thought.
>>
>> From what I have been reading, Vista SR1 isn't going to be all that great
>> when it comes to video performance either. It looks like XP sr2b is
>> going to be the top-dog for a while longer in the gaming world. (I want
>> HALO2 on my XP!)
>>
>> Maybe their is to much DRM in the system gumming up the inners. Maybe
>> I'll pull out the E6600 - Core 2 Dual and drop in a Core 2 Quad in its
>> place for Christmas. Maybe go to 4 gig (3.2g usable ) to go with XP.
>>
>> William
>>
>>
>>
>> "First of One" <root RemoveThis @127.0.0.1> wrote in message
>> news:Oamdndv9qvCzCTvbnZ2dnUVZ_vqpnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> The HD2900XT has a lot of features "broken" in the silicon, one of them
>>> being the hardware FSAA resolver. UVD may be the other item. Marketing
>>> pressures.
>>>
>>> --
>>> "War is the continuation of politics by other means.
>>> It can therefore be said that politics is war without
>>> bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."
>>>
>>> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:DaidnQ6R44ME2jvbnZ2dnUVZ_oGjnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> ( I find it odd that the HD 2900XT still has the older version of
>>>> Avivo. )
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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